home made rock help????

[Booboo33062]

I made some rock a while back when it was hot. I let it set unfortuntly in tap water for about 9 weeks changing it every couple days. Now I have been soaking it in RO/DI water with changes every 3 days for about 4 weeks. I test it for pH and it has been real high. Three days ago it tested at 8.0 so I got ready to put saltwater in it and soak it for awhile. Then today I tested it's RO/DI water again before I changed over and it was real high again. Does it make a difference if it has a pump in there stiring it around or not because I took the pump I had in there to stir my saltwater around. Could this have caused it to go up.
Thanks,

[yardboy]

It helps to keep the water circulating around it. What's happening is calcium hydroxide is leaching out of the rock. As it leaches out of the surface layer, it will take longer and longer over time for the leaching to change the pH of your water, particularly if it isn't circulating, so that you are measuring the pH of water that hasn't come into contact with the rock. Expect the pH to jump again when you change over to saltwater, as it will promote the leaching (so how,I don't know, but observation has told me that it happens)

Soak in RO/DI onece more, and add a little vinegar to the mix. How much? Well, enough to lower the pH to below 7.00. Wait a few days and check again. If it's risen, add a little more vinegar. Do this several times until the pH doesn't drastically rise again. Then switch to saltwater and just let it soak. Might even add a little vinegar again, but it won't have as much of an effect, as saltwater is pretty well buffered.

[tdwyatt]

...although I don't know if I would put a lot of vinegar in, as the acetate left in the water after the proton reacts with the hydroxyl ion will be a potential food source for microbial metabolisms.

[reef_noob]

Originally Posted by tdwyatt

...although I don't know if I would put a lot of vinegar in, as the acetate left in the water after the proton reacts with the hydroxyl ion will be a potential food source for microbial metabolisms.

Not to mention that the hydroptate will axialize with the heurons according to Fletzer's principle of neotransient mycologization.

[tdwyatt]

Originally Posted by reef_noob

Not to mention that the hydroptate will axialize with the heurons according to Fletzer's principle of neotransient mycologization.

[Booboo33062]

I will put some vinegar in there then

[yardboy]

Vinegar is at least safer than hydrochloric, and since the rock is homemade, there ain't a lot of food in there to begin with.

Noob, you need to consider that carbon's tetrahedral structure in the acetate ion will form numerous pterodactylic steriosomers, catalytically thwarting the heuron axialization synaptic process, in direct oppostion to the mycologization principle. Fletzer was a fool, to begin with.

[tdwyatt]

Originally Posted by yardboy

...Fletzer was a fool, to begin with.

Didn't he develop the process used to make the Fletzer bottle?











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[yardboy]

Yes Indeed. Unfortunately cheap Chinese knockoffs relegated the originals to being used to sell banana catsup by little old Pinoy women on Mactan Island, off the coast of Cebu.







I would post a disclaimer, but no one believes anything I say anyway; if they know what's good for them.

[Loverotties]

Also put a PH in for circulation.

[tdwyatt]

Originally Posted by yardboy

...Unfortunately cheap Chinese knockoffs relegated the originals to being used to sell banana catsup by little old Pinoy women on Mactan Island, off the coast of Cebu.

Isn't that really why MacArthur said he would return???

I see a peanut butter and banana catsup sawndwich in my near future, I wonder if the local sandwich factory carries the Feltzer bottles...











see, it only gets worse the deeper it gets...

[yardboy]

Woah, you really know your history. After his ignanimous withdrawal from the Islands, he actually did return, not more than 20 miles from where the Sari-Sari store was located selling the catsup, though later I saw a secondary usage for the bottles, for catching the sweet juices of the coconut flower to make a potent local drink known as "Tuba". It was quite attractive, the fiery red liquid in that iridescent Feltzer bottle. The locals were enjoying the drink so much I didn't even begin to try and explain what the bottle had originally been used for.

[Booboo33062]

Yardboy

Your input really makes my head hurt. I keep thinking I should know what all those words should mean. Thanks anyway.

[skeety]

Originally Posted by yardboy

Noob, you need to consider that carbon's tetrahedral structure in the acetate ion will form numerous pterodactylic steriosomers, catalytically thwarting the heuron axialization synaptic process, in direct oppostion to the mycologization principle.

I'm with booboo! I think I'm gonna write those words down,and put them in my wallet so next time I play scrabble, I can kick some SERIOUS boo-tay!

[reef_noob]

Originally Posted by yardboy

Noob, you need to consider that carbon's tetrahedral structure in the acetate ion will form numerous pterodactylic steriosomers, catalytically thwarting the heuron axialization synaptic process, in direct oppostion to the mycologization principle. Fletzer was a fool, to begin with.

Oh, come on, don't be simplistic. Steriosomer catalyzation has only occurred in controlled labratory experiments. Besides, nobody has conclusively shown that tetrahedral structures form pterodactylic steriosomers in any case.

Occam's razor tells us that the mycologization principle is the more likely candidate for heuron axialization. Benzworth and his ilk are merely grasping at straws to explain the seemingly pterodactylic structures which are in all actuality axialized heurons anyway.