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11-15-2007, 08:57 AM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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Location: Wooster, Ohio
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high nitrates
I am having a issue with high nitrates at 100ppm. 
First thing i checked my ro/di source water nitrates 0ppm
I have absolutely nothing in my tank but about 60# of dead base rock.
What could be causing this? I shouldnt i worry about it until i get some uncured live rock in the tank and my cycle starts. will the nitrates go down after my cycle is thru
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90g RR w/30g custom sump,30# Kaelini,30# Marshall,20# Uaniva,20# Tonga Branch,2 6045s,1 Seio 820,Milwaukee pH monitor,Milwaukee ORP monitor,(2) 150w Ebo Jager heaters,PanWorld 50px return pump, 2x54w T5 w/individual SLR IC reflectors,2x250w XM 10k w/ARO 250w electronic ballast,Reef Octopus NW200 skimmer
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11-15-2007, 09:05 AM
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Shark
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nitrates are the end result of the nitrogen cycle. nothing will make it go down except water changes and nitrate redusing chemicals/media................so water changes water changes water changes |
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11-15-2007, 09:11 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Your LR is dead,.. in the center of the LR is anarobic areas that allow for de-nitirifaction,.. those areas are probably dead too preventing the LR from removing the nitrate from the water colum.
Ontop of that your LR proably has some dead material on it that is now rotting and creating ammonia the end result of which is Nitrate.
Just be patent is my advice 
Whiskey
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11-15-2007, 09:15 AM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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Wiskey,
So is my rock i have in there now no good? If thats the case then should i go to all new rock? I am going to make my skimmer skim alittle wetter and see if that helps any.
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90g RR w/30g custom sump,30# Kaelini,30# Marshall,20# Uaniva,20# Tonga Branch,2 6045s,1 Seio 820,Milwaukee pH monitor,Milwaukee ORP monitor,(2) 150w Ebo Jager heaters,PanWorld 50px return pump, 2x54w T5 w/individual SLR IC reflectors,2x250w XM 10k w/ARO 250w electronic ballast,Reef Octopus NW200 skimmer
still a work in progress, but getting ever so close
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11-15-2007, 09:16 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevilBoy
Wiskey,
So is my rock i have in there now no good? If thats the case then should i go to all new rock? I am going to make my skimmer skim alittle wetter and see if that helps any.
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It's fine,.. it just needs to setup again,.. it may require real LR in order to colonize the new rock, but I think something like bacteria will do that on it's own.
It will take a little longer with base (Dried out) rock, but it will happen.
Whiskey
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11-15-2007, 09:19 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Nov 2007
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You need to go to a fellow reefer or LFS and find a nice big ol smelly piece of live rock. The bacteria from that rock will move into the dead rock and make it live again. Just take a bit of patience. Good luck!
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11-15-2007, 09:22 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Originally Posted by Stlouisguy
You need to go to a fellow reefer or LFS and find a nice big ol smelly piece of live rock. The bacteria from that rock will move into the dead rock and make it live again. Just take a bit of patience. Good luck!
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Smellyer the better! 
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11-15-2007, 09:32 AM
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Caitlin Renee 6/29/07
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Originally Posted by Wiskey
Smellyer the better!
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11-15-2007, 09:43 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Originally Posted by DevilBoy
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This hobby doesn't always smell like whine and roses 
Especially when skimate is involved! 
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And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but its sinking
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11-15-2007, 10:58 AM
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Enjoy it now
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Hey,m i've grown to love the smell of stinky skimmate LOL
Good luck on lowering those trates  |
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11-15-2007, 01:55 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Oct 2007
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my wife loves the tank, but can't stand the smell of skimmate. It makes me happy, cause it means the foul stench is outside the tank.
How long does it take seeded live rock to colonize base rock?
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11-15-2007, 03:09 PM
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squid
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Second opinion?
You might take a sample to a LFS and have them test it. It could be your test kit. I have two different kits, one reads about 100 and the other .5. The LFS proved the .5 to be correct.
Growing macro algae can reduce nitrates if that is an option but it must grow a lot then be harvested.
Don't waste your time with Mangroves. I have been trying them and have seen a lot of growth but no noticable reduction in nitrates.
This is just one of the reasons that patience is a requirement for this hobby.
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11-15-2007, 03:40 PM
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Enjoy it now
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Welcome Fazgood!
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11-15-2007, 04:07 PM
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Once the tank get better, keeping Tridacnid clams in the tank will help keep nitrates in line. If your tank had good bright lights in the 6.5kK temp or up, you can use the clams to help keep down the nitrates, but wait until you're sure the water quality is up to start with.
HTH, btw, I concur wth big water changes until the system is back to normal, if it has never cycled, let the tank lie fallow for a month or two before adding live critters.
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11-15-2007, 07:44 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
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yea, my clams are doing wonders for my nitrates. i have 45' (yes that is feet) of drain line. keeping this from becoming a wet/dry is impossible. therefore i have nitrates. normally they are at least 40, but i just tested them for giggles and they are around 10. surprised me. i am betting the clams are keeping them in check. i have 7 total. 3 are over 5" in length. the others are itsy, so they do not count.
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