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04-23-2006, 10:30 PM
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Little Fishy
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Help! Tang in trouble!
I purchased a sailfin tang, Zebrasoma veliferum, 3 days ago. Perfect health and shape. I even timed the purchase so I would get it before it went into the LFS tanks, in a hope to avoid double shock. the Fish was active and eating untill about 2:00pm today. It found a spot behind a rock and wont eat is breathing very rapidly. It seems to have a problem keeping itself upright. It also appears that its color is a tiny bit faded. however his fins are still standing high. I have moved it to a refugium where I can keep a better eye on it but I am cocerned I do not have long as this sickness has come on so quick. At first I thought it may be an outside pollutant that got in the tank, but that would affect all fish.
Water tests:
Am-0
Ni-0
Na-0
pH-8.2-8.4
Cal-450
Dkh-8
76-78 degrees.
Thanx for any help,
Michael
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04-24-2006, 12:25 AM
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just bumping this up so it's seen.
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04-24-2006, 12:58 AM
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If you got it directly from the shipping bag, its prolly dealing with acclimation and shipping stress, what if any acclimation method did you use?
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04-24-2006, 01:00 AM
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Shark
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You also forgot to post salinity readings.
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04-24-2006, 11:40 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Puerto Rico
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Sorry! Salinity is 1.024 to 1.025. The acclimatization method I use is, I tranfer the fish or coral to a 1/2 gallon bucket with enough water from the LFS to cover the fish so he can move a little. Then I drip feed my water at about 3 drops a second until the container has about 4 parts my water to 1 part the lfs water. I then float the container in my sump untill the temp is equal. I will then net the fish out or in the case of a tang i gently remove it with my hand and place it in the tank. When I am acclimatizing fish I also turn down the lights to actinic only.
Anyway, the poor guy did not make it through the night. Does anyone have any idea what may have happened?
Also, I believe this fish was from a rearing facility in Salinas PR which is only about an hour from the LFS. From what I have been told the facility rears many different species from a juvenille stage to better acclimatize them to aquarium life and foods.
Michael
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04-24-2006, 11:43 AM
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Sounds like shipping stress ,sometimes its not good to buy them in the bag, its 50 /50 they live ,I figure if they can live in the LFS water then they are very hardy and will buy them after about 2 weeks of being at the LFS.
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04-24-2006, 11:46 AM
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Milkshake Man
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I had a butterfly fish do that to me within 5 hours after being in my tank. Must of stressed him out from the transfer from the LFS tank to your tank. It happens sorry that it happen to you.
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04-24-2006, 12:37 PM
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cyanide caught
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04-24-2006, 12:42 PM
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Eat more PIE
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cyanide caught
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especially if it poops white.
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04-24-2006, 03:01 PM
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Little Fishy
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Everybody keeps saying shipping stress, but he was perfect for 2 days, and then rapidy took his turn for the worse. I mean he was eating within hours and swimming with the other fish. He was not hiding or labouring at all. If it was shipping stress, then I would assume that he would have a slow decline over the few days.
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04-24-2006, 03:05 PM
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Shark
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Sorry about your fish.
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04-24-2006, 03:08 PM
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Eat more PIE
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Cyanide poison then nothing you can do.
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04-24-2006, 03:09 PM
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I had the same situation with my Black Cap Basslet which was just put in the LFS from shipping and I came in a saw it and bought it like 2 hrs of being in the LFS tank after seeing him eat. The fish was eating for 2 days no problems then it was starting to go down hill and died. I tried it again about a month later, but had the LFS hold it for a week or so and see how it did and have had no problems with the current black cap. I believe it might have been cyanide or shipping stress that took the first black cap.
Just my thoughts
I am sorry about your tang passing 
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Everybody keeps saying shipping stress, but he was perfect for 2 days, and then rapidy took his turn for the worse. I mean he was eating within hours and swimming with the other fish. He was not hiding or labouring at all. If it was shipping stress, then I would assume that he would have a slow decline over the few days.
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04-24-2006, 03:18 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Thanx to all. With cyanide, I heard that a sympton is a complete lack of appetite. Is that true?
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04-24-2006, 03:27 PM
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Eat more PIE
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Not always it kills the kidneys though.
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