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Geoff · 08-16-2006, 10:54 AM

i kinda agree with Jenn. i do not think you should remove the angel for treatmen. it will stress the angel more. when the angel is better you will then have to put it back into the display and you will have another fighting session with the tang. if they have settled out now, than let things be.

G~

skeety · 08-16-2006, 11:32 AM

Ditto. Just feed a little more, soak it in garlic, and reduce stress as best as possible!!! (keep your hands out of the tank)

hng · 08-16-2006, 12:39 PM

What exactly does everyone mean when they say to soak in garlic? Are we talking about getting out a clove and squishing the juices onto food?

afbengochea · 08-16-2006, 01:27 PM

garlic juice into the food, also a blood/scarlet/fire shrimp also does a pretty good job at cleaning ...... atleast mine do

skeety · 08-16-2006, 02:57 PM

YOu can use an actual garlic clove if you want. Pick a piece. Peel the skin...smash with a sideways butter knife, and let it soak in the water for 10-15 min. Pull the smashed clove out, add your food, let soak a little more, then add.

Or you can buy the many Garlic extract/flavoring products you'll find at your LFS. It's entirely up to you.

There is NO scientific proof that this helps, but there is a large (more than normal) amount of anecdotal evidence backing this theory up. It's up to you.

hng · 08-16-2006, 03:38 PM

Hmmm....well, I like garlic in my food, we'll see if my fish like it too.

ConstantNRG · 08-16-2006, 03:56 PM

hey everyone. todays update is that he has two more spots on his tail, and still will not eat. i have tried garlic on the food. live brine, formula one, two, just about everything i could get my hands on. still no apetite for the food. will not even try to bite at it, just swims right past. As far as the cleaner shrimp, the regal doesnt like them, when they try to clean him, the regal swims away, or tries to nip at them.

i would love to keep him in the tank in hopes that he will become better, however i do not want to increase the chance of the ich reproducing by keeping it in the tank longer and longer.

i am going to feed them now. i will give him one hour in that tank to eat, if stil no interest, i think that means that he is going to take a ride down the porcelin express. unfortunate, but it is just about the only real option at this point, because even he i cure his ich, he will not eat, so his immune system will be shot anyway, and his health will continue to decline. i think it might be best for him to just have a quick and painless death than to starve to death.

any thoughts?

hng · 08-16-2006, 04:49 PM

Geez, sorry to hear it's gotten so bad. Personally I would try a freshwater dip or quarantine tank before just flushing the poor guy. Who knows, maybe if you get the ich off him, he'll start eating again. If you must euthanize him, I've heard that freezing the fish is supposed to be a humane way.

skeety · 08-16-2006, 05:46 PM

definitely give him more time.

Almost every tang I added to any of my tanks showed SOME ick early on. They ALL recovered and have not shown any ick for months.

give him time. Maybe he'll make it, maybe he won't. But for now, I'd let him be.

Geoff · 08-16-2006, 08:51 PM

if the other fish are healthy and strong than they will not get ick. keep things statis quo and give them time.

do you know if the angel was eating at the LFS? did you see it eat?

G~

ConstantNRG · 08-16-2006, 08:56 PM

well, i made the move. he went for a ride on the local sewage system. it was sad to do, but i think it was the right move. Only from experiance with my freshwater fishkeeping, and treating ich, i think that it was right to remove him before any hatched off of him and spread through the rest of the tank. Maybe with time he would have gotten better, but the world may never know.

thanks for the help anyway guys. i appreciate it.

Doug1 · 08-16-2006, 10:48 PM

Dude, you bought a Regal Angel, a fish that has a pretty dismal survival rate in captivity, stuck him in an overstocked tank with a tang that will get to big for the tank, the new fish got sick and you flushed it cause it was only $25. Ican;t believe this

This board has a no flame policy but I have to tell you that thats a bad attitude to take towards creatures kidnapped from their homes. If you had researched Regals you would have known they aren't the best candidates for a home aquarium. I find blowing off suggestions to Q it as too much bother an attitude that I would not want to see spread.
Please take the sailfin back to the store and stop adding fish , meanwhile do a lot of studying and decide where you want to go with this tank then set realistic goals

ConstantNRG · 08-17-2006, 01:30 AM

i am truly sorry everyone. i tried to do everything that i could to figure out this situation without sacrificing the health of everyone else in my tank. its not as if i thought he didnt look right and just tossed him, or said hes just not worth the effort. i spent hours a day and countless efforts on differnet foods and methodsto try to get him to feed. If after one week of not eating a single drop of food, and showing continually decreasing health, should i have let his health kee spiraling downwards? To me, i thought that this was the most humane thing to do for him as to not let him suffer any longer. I had a hard time doing it because i really wanted him to do great.

i understand that i made a mistake bby purchasing him without knowing that he is not a very good adapted to the home environment. I am sorry for that, because i hate to see anything, especially such a beautiful living animal go to waste. The only thing that i can do now is learn my lesson and not do anything like that again.

i am sorry to everyone who probably hates me for doing what i did. i dont want to be seen as an idiot who just kills fish without care.

Twitterbait · 08-17-2006, 01:35 AM

I agree with doug and like him (im sure) i am biting my tounge about what i would really like to say. Life is precious regardless of how much it costs. if you can't keep the fish alive then either take it back or give it to someone else, don't just get it out of the way in the guise of "putting it out of its misery," I have seen angels and tangs fully recover from being TOTALLY COVERED in ich with pop eye too. Stop what your doing, take the tang back before he has issues and please do some research before you buy anymore fish. We owe these animals at least that much respect.

Junkzoo · 08-17-2006, 01:45 AM

You spoke of not wanting the ich to "hatch" from the fish,and spread,not exactly the way to think,,,the cycle is likely in your tank,,and waiting for the chance to get to a fish, and complete it's life cycle.Just flushing a fish, thinking it is going to cure the problem ,is way off base,on so many levels,,,
(Like probably many others, biting my tongue right now. trying not to flurb out here,,,,,I better shut up now,,,,