Got my first new Elegance

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by icebear

ooh, yuck. do those FW harm them? ...some FW are just ugly, not harmful, but i don't know anything about ECs

(like how you know if they are aussies or not)

I know EC's, but not FW's. In all my years, I have never had FW's. My LFS is closed on Monday, so I can't even treat them until morning.

You can't really tell Aussies from any other just by first appearance. You can when you stick them under light though. These corals were about 20" below a 175W 14K MH with just a flat reflector. The Aussie has adapted to this light with no problems. Within minutes of exposure to these lights the two new ones puffed up like all the other Indonesian Elegance do when they are exposed to light like this. I just hope I got them out of the light before any serious damage was done.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by partobe

Thats too bad. Do you think they will make it? Will they harm the healthy coral you bought before? How is it doing? Will the guy give your money back? Sorry so many questions.

Okay, first question.
Yes I think they will make it. It won't be easy, and they will need alot of TLC. I really had no desire to nurse any more elegance through this.

The only time they will harm a healthy elegance is when they show signs of an active infection.

The first coral is doing great. I feed it every few days, and it's polyp keeps expanding.

I'm not going to ask for my money back. Sometimes it's best to just put things behind you and move on.

[jenglish]

Originally Posted by Elegance Coral

I'm not going to ask for my money back. Sometimes it's best to just put things behind you and move on.

Taking them back may be hazardous to their health as well.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by jenglish

Sorry to hear that EC. Do they tolerate FW treatments?

Thanks. Yes, they do fine with FW treatments. I've known of several people that had to do this with EC's. The treatment always worked and the EC was fine. I just hope none of them came off in my tank. I really don't want to treat the whole tank. I have both EC's in a bucket for the night.

[biowheel]

Hey EC . My LFS has 2 EC's . 79. bucks . about 3" & 2 " around . good price ? Nobody is buying them . I don't have MH so I'm not sure if I can have um . They are on the greenish side.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by biowheel

Hey EC . My LFS has 2 EC's . 79. bucks . about 3" & 2 " around . good price ? Nobody is buying them . I don't have MH so I'm not sure if I can have um . They are on the greenish side.

If they are from Australia, it's a good price. If they're from Indonesia, it's WAY more than they are worth.

I forgot what lighting you have, but you're probably right. If the lights are low, they would need to be placed high in the tank and the flow near the top is usually to strong for them.

[biowheel]

Originally Posted by Elegance Coral

If they are from Australia, it's a good price. If they're from Indonesia, it's WAY more than they are worth.

I forgot what lighting you have, but you're probably right. If the lights are low, they would need to be placed high in the tank and the flow near the top is usually to strong for them.

Ok I'll ask them where they come from .Just so I know too. I have PC's .
If they were at the top in my tank they would need anchor lines to hold um .

[aquawolf]

I am sorry to hear you are going to be starting down the trail of nursing more corals back to health. I am sure you can do it again, but it sure does seem to take a lot out of you.

I was at a meeting this past Saturday and they had a strange looking coral that they said was some type of a torch. It was a very dark green under the T5 lights and did not look like any torch I had seen before. I am now thinking it may have been an elegance, but at the same time am not too sure how healthy it may have been either.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by jenglish

Taking them back may be hazardous to their health as well.

Are you talking about the dude that sold them to me or the EC's? Just kidding.

I very seriously doubt these corals would survive if I took them back. The dudes tank was infested with hair algae, and obviously flat worms. He's getting out of the hobby, so I don't believe he would put the effort into caring for these corals that's needed.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by biowheel

Ok I'll ask them where they come from .Just so I know too. I have PC's .
If they were at the top in my tank they would need anchor lines to hold um .

That's kinda what I figured. These corals really don't do well in the average hurricane force flow of the modern reef aquarium.

[Elegance Coral]

Originally Posted by aquawolf

I am sorry to hear you are going to be starting down the trail of nursing more corals back to health. I am sure you can do it again, but it sure does seem to take a lot out of you.

Thanks. It's just frustrating when I've been telling everyone that will listen not to purchase Indo Elegance corals, and here I am doing it myself.
My purpose with these corals is to have them spawn and raise the larvae. Even if I'm successful at bringing these corals through this rough time, it will be years before they are in any condition to spawn.

I was at a meeting this past Saturday and they had a strange looking coral that they said was some type of a torch. It was a very dark green under the T5 lights and did not look like any torch I had seen before. I am now thinking it may have been an elegance, but at the same time am not too sure how healthy it may have been either.

Don't feel bad about getting them confused. There is a very popular article from a very popular author where he shows a photo, claiming that it's an Elegance, when it is in fact a torch. He probably did it on purpose though.

[Elegance Coral]

Well, I called all 4 LFS's and none of them carry flat worm exit. I did some reading on here and found a post by Tom (thanks Tom) about fresh water dips killing flat worms. I dipped both elegance and put them back in the tank. I think it worked. There were quite a few flat worms on the bottom of the container. The Elegance are really really not happy. Elegance corals have a self defence response that they only use in very extreme situations. They discharge mesenterial filaments (digestive structures) through their skin. After returning them to the tank I notices these filaments, so I took them out and swooshed them around in a bucket of salt water. I think the toxins from the flat worms ticked them off.

Here's a couple of pic's showing the curly white mesenterial filaments.

[icebear]

my shrooms gag those up when they are really mad too. hope the elegance cheer up soon!

[aquawolf]

Very interesting behavior. Thanks for documenting it with the photo.

[biowheel]

That is strange .
EC I went to the LFS and asked about the EC's they have .Ya know where they were from . They are frags from a local guy . They get them from him like every 3 months . They looked like the had fluorescent yellow green vests on tonight . I wish I could get um .