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Old 08-12-2009, 07:14 AM   #1
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Equipment needed for a 29 gallon reef


So my wife and I are starting a reef tank. Very excited! We are both of the "environmental" type, try to do our best at least. Actually, thats why the reef. We love snorkeling and diving. Any where we go, thats usually our deciding factor. My question is, what equipment is suggested to maintain a small 29 gallon reef and to keep it succesfull? We both would absolute HATE uneccesarrily killing these beautiful creatures. Problem is, we just don't have space for a larger tank and I have heard 29 gallons can be hard to maintain. We are concerned about this. Already I can see the tank runs too hot, hard to keep at 78. With lights on, quickly hit 82. Any suggestions? Many of your tanks seem to be doing fantastic!

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lights: coralife aqualight delux lunar, 1 10000k white, 1 65 watt actinic, moons
CPR bakpak 2 skimmer
coralife 9 watt turbotwist UV sterilizer
35# LR
live sand

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Old 08-12-2009, 07:23 AM   #2
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sounds like you have a great start already. I would add a sump to your setup. Go with a CPR overflow so it wont take up much room in your tank, I have added pictures of my 29 build to give you an idea on how I ran mine, if your interested. I would hook up an auto top off for sure! Its easy cheap and will save you a lot of hassle.

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Upgraded filtration and lighting, what I just took down to put up what I have now.
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:06 AM   #3
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Honestly I'm surprised your overheating with just 130w PC lights over it.

If it's possible to add a sump that would help to keep things a little more stable. "dilution is the solution to pollution"

How hot does the tank get? If it's only hitting 82 there is no problem there. Can you add a small fan to blow across the waters surface?
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:45 AM   #4
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Do you have a glass top on the tank?

What pump are you using to run water through the UV unit?
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:19 PM   #5
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a small fan can do wonders with PC lighting just helps evacuate the heat for under the bulbs.
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Old 08-12-2009, 12:29 PM   #6
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Yes a fan blowing across the top of water.
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Old 08-12-2009, 05:23 PM   #7
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I have a 175 watt MH over my 29, and have a difficult time keeping it up to 80 lol. I also have it sitting relatively close to my central air duct, and have some space in the back of my canopy that lets hot air get out. It usually runs about 78 with the lights on.
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Old 08-12-2009, 06:23 PM   #8
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Well living in Ohio.....he probably doesnt have AC.......or doesnt run it. All the southerners run AC 20 hours a day. Down here in JAX it hit in the high 90's......but with AC our houses stay 72-74. Well if you house is 78-80......your tank is going to be hotter than that for sure with lights over it. I know the lfs I shop at.....there ac went out and his tank hit 90 and caused a rather bad crash. I think it depends completly on the tanks surroundings and stability of air temperature.
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:24 PM   #9
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Haha its ohio not Canada I'm in IL we run are ac from May to almost November sometimes it gets quite hot in ohio to 100plus sometimes
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:20 PM   #10
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I would suggest not using the CPR style overflow boxes, they can be prone to loosing siphon and can cause you to have a flood. I would suggest a U-tube style box like the Lifereef overflows.. they are far less prone to failure.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:32 PM   #11
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Well living in Ohio.....he probably doesnt have AC.......or doesnt run it. All the southerners run AC 20 hours a day. Down here in JAX it hit in the high 90's......but with AC our houses stay 72-74. Well if you house is 78-80......your tank is going to be hotter than that for sure with lights over it. I know the lfs I shop at.....there ac went out and his tank hit 90 and caused a rather bad crash. I think it depends completly on the tanks surroundings and stability of air temperature.
I live one state over in Indiana, the heat is not as bad as the south, but its pretty warm. Warm enough to run the AC from late April early May till sometimes October. You make it sound like Ohio is the arctic or something lol
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Old 08-12-2009, 09:53 PM   #12
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I have a tank similar to yours, a 36 gallon, and have had good sucess over the years. I am re-starting it now after the move and going smooth.

Here is what I have.

-Roughly 40 Lbs of rock
-30 lbs of fine sand
-Aqua C remora with MJ 1200 (it skims a cup every two days now, but when tank stablizes it does 1/4 cup a week)
-Two little fishies phospahte reactor with MJ 600 ( I run GFO, carbon and nitrate stones in here)
- (2) koralia 1's
- (1) koralia 3 (pointed straight into the rock, its pretty strong for this tank but makes great flow between the rock work)
- 150w stealth heater
- zoo med powersweep to agitate the surface
- coralife 130w PC light (big mistake, do not get PC light). Probably going to do DIY LED lights for $350 very soon
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Old 08-13-2009, 12:11 AM   #13
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My U tube overflow box caused four floods in my house.........in less than two months........switched to the CPR overflow and as long as you keep the nipple clean for the aqaulifter.....it wont fail. I didnt have any problems......and I ran a mag 9.5 then switched to a mag 12. I liked it because it only took up about two inches of the back wall........and when you have a small tank two inches is a big deal. Now I have a drilled back wall......with a overflow box attached. It works great. If you can go this route do it. My U tube experience was tainted I think........first flood a snail crawled in my overflow and cloged up the U tube.....second one it just failed because of air. third time air......and the last time was I got careless and left a frag bag on top of my aquarium......fell in and clogged up. now realize I was using a Mag 9.5 on my tank when these failures occured.....so in all honesty I was over pumping it.....BUT.....it could handle it.....it just kept getting clogged or bubbles. :/ Drilled is the best way.
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:27 AM   #14
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really... you are one of the first people I have ever heard of having issues with a U-tube loosing it's siphon, most people that have problems are using weir overflow boxes... seriously though... you really are one of the first that i have ever heard of.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:35 AM   #15
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maybe its because i was running 700gph through it?
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