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Old 02-16-2008, 11:22 AM   #1
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Dwarf Angels and Bannerfish


Both are 'with caution' in a reef system.

Both descriptions say they will nip are soft and hard corals. The banner fish diet also consists of sponges.

Are polyps soft corals? I was thinking of getting some to add some color. And I heard they grow like crazy, so even if they would sample them when hungry would you still be able to keep them in there?

No biggie if I can't and they 2 wouldn't be added for quite sometime. Just curious.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:33 PM   #2
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Yes, polyps are soft corals.

There are always risks in this hobby and you need to decide how much risk you are willing to take. There are some zoanthids that grow very rapidly and are quite common (translated as not very expensive) that you might want to try. You can try keeping the fish well fed and hope for the best as well.

The sponge eating would be a huge concern to me if that was the main food source for the fish, as it is for some nudibranchs out there. I do not know of a way that you could keep an unlimited supply of sponge growing for a tank inhabitant to constantly graze on.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:54 PM   #3
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I have had a flame angel for over a year with minimal nipping, Keep em fat and the dont mess with your corals too much.
Its 50/50 weather they will be nippers.
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Old 02-16-2008, 01:40 PM   #4
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There are at least two species of Bannerfish that are ornamentals in the marine aquarium trade: Heniochus diphreutes which is a planktonivore and Heniochus acuminatus which is a coralivore/omnivore. The morphological difference is very slight between the two, but discernable at the anal fin in particular and the shape of the snout.

The black edging on the H. acuminatus anal fin is absent on the H. dipheuretes, a few other small differences (like the number of rays in the dorsal fin, etc. ) but the main difference is the schooling bannerfish (H. dipheuretes) is a plantkon feeder, and will pick the zooplankton from the water column with relish (and is much easier to get to eat) wheras the Pendent Coralfish (H. acuminatus) is a polyp feeder, and although it will eat flake, zooplankton, etc, it will also consume polyps whenever given the opportunity, or when other food stuffs are not plentiful. The snout of the H. diphreutes specie is more angular to the overall shape of the facial plane, as if it had an endented notch in the middle of its forehead. The H. acuminatus is a more straight face, as if it were a "V" formed from above the area above the forehead to the opiculum, with the oral opening at the peak of the "V". IME the larger the H. acuminatus specimen is when brought in from the wild (and subsequently the more experience it has had with eating in the wild), the more likely it is to consume polyps. I have seen what the H. acuminatus will do to polyps...



H. dipheuretes are quite the beautiful fish, and very personable. Mine would take zooplankton out of my hand, with the "banner" dorsal fin breaking the surface of the water (Mel thinks it is related to the shark-attack-behavior of the fish when feeding the thawed zooplankton ). I (unfortunately in terms of keeping these little beauties) made the decision to stay away from schools of fish to concentrate on stony corals (fewer fish = less nutrient load in the tank = better stony coral coloration), but if you have a large tank and don't concentrate on stony corals, these are great fishes for schooling as the butterflies of your coral garden.

see Schooling bannerfish species summary

and

Pennant coralfish species summary


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