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Old 03-16-2007, 04:25 AM   #1
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dwarf angel reef safe?


was planning on getting an angelfish this weekend. I have a reef setup up with soft corals-leathers , lps-bubble, brian, fungia, frogspawn zooanthids, and sponges....just wondering what dwarf angel i shuold get---was debating over flame, lemonpeel, potter's, or maybe coral beauty...was wonderign what you thuoght was the most reef safe out of these angels? do you have any stories that i shuold here about? anybody have these fish do fine in a reef setup? i know that it varies on personality and stuff but i was wondering which wuold i have my best chance in...... thanks
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Old 03-16-2007, 06:51 AM   #2
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as long as it is the Dwarf angel you should not have too much problem, but you wil have to research each one carefully, some will nip at corals and clams.
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:18 AM   #3
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Ive had all three flame flash back and coral beauty. The flash back was DEF not reef safe picked at all my corals all day long. The flame only picked at my yellow polyps. Ive had 2 coral beauties and neither one of them has ever picked at anything in my tank.
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:22 AM   #4
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I've tried my hand at a few dwarf angels, and there are 2 risks with them. First, some are tricky to get eating. I've lost a lemon peel and potter's angel from my ignorance (didnt know what to do to get them to eat), when likely some garlic soaked food would have done the trick (I know better now). Second, obviously, is they can pick on corals. The worst at picking, from the reports I've read and experience I've had, are the half-black/eibli angel and the lemon peel. I had a half-black, and while it's a beautiful fish, it nipped at everything in the tank. Zoanthids, softies, LPS, clams; it didnt care. I put a corcea clam in the tank and within minutes of opening, the angel was all over it. I've since gotten rid of the dwarf angels in my tank, as I don't like the risks.

A lot of people have good success with the flame or potter's angels, but don't be surprised if they pick at one or two specific corals. The best bet, if you really like those fish, is to just remove whatever coral it has a taste for, and to feed 2 or 3 times a day if possible.

Good luck with your choice!!
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Old 03-16-2007, 07:30 AM   #5
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I had a Pygmy Angel and he made my open brain miserable. That must have tasted like pizza. He a piece every other day. I think they should be housed in a long tank too. They like to swim.
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:54 PM   #6
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I had to catch and return two different angels after putting them in my tank. First was a coral beauty, after returning it I convinced myself it was just a rare occurence. Well I replaced it with a beautiful flame and within 10 days had to catch and return it as well. As much as I would love an angel I have learned my lesson. Good luck, hopefully you will have success with yours.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:43 PM   #7
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I've had a cherub pygmy angel in my nano-reef a couple of months. He is very active, constantly swimming, and doesn't bother my corals at all. He likes to peck at the live rock, and algae at the back of the tank. Definitely a cute little fish. He eats phytofeast, and also soft spirulina balls.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:15 PM   #8
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My Eibli is a coral munching machine. It really does vary from fish to fish.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:20 PM   #9
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Simple equation from my reef experiences:
Angels + reef tank = bad news
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I had a flame angel that loved to munch Palys
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:33 PM   #11
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I had a Lemon Peel that decimated my zoos, a Flame that ate my yellow polyps and star polyps and later ate sps polyps when no others were left.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:37 PM   #12
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i know i keep pushing the genicanthus angels , but they are probally the safest . the problem is their uncommon and slightly more expensive than the more common pygmys .

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i know i keep pushing the genicanthus angels , but they are probally the safest . the problem is their uncommon and slightly more expensive than the more common pygmys .


I second the Lamarck Angel!

Here's mine:



He hasn't been in the tank long, but I have been told by numerous sources they are safe and so far so good. He nips at the rocks for algae all day. Never nips at the polyps.
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:20 AM   #14
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My best friend bought a Lamaric from Jeff at Fish Word in Kansas City....He's nipping at the SPS polyps! NO ANGEL is going in my reef!!!!
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:19 AM   #15
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Kept flame and coral beauty with no issues.
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