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10-21-2003, 09:23 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kansas
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DT's Question
just curious about some DT's I bought from a local store. It smells bad, but the owner of the store seems to think it is alright. I have heard that if it smells bad don't use it, any opinions?
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10-21-2003, 11:11 PM
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TRT Staff The Mominator
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If it smells bad, don't use it. Tell him you want a refund.
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10-21-2003, 11:31 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: South Cali
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Aww, now I have to sound stupid again, because I'm not up on the sland or abbreviations
What the fruitloop is a DT and why are "we" smelling it??
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10-22-2003, 12:21 AM
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Stress Monger
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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DT's is liquid live phytoplankton. Great algae food although some people feed it to thier corals. It is good for clams and feather dusters...
IMHO...
Or at least they think thier corals are eating it..
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10-22-2003, 01:10 AM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Colorado
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If it stinks take it back...Don't use it. DT's has a smell but it doesn't stink.
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10-22-2003, 05:40 AM
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Eat more PIE
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida Panhandle
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Dont use it DTS does not stink.
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10-22-2003, 07:10 AM
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Look deeply into my eyes
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: NW Indiana
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couple of maybe's here, it was not refrigerated(i've caught a few LFS's that did this) and /or it's outdated,,,,check the "best by" stamped on it,,,
any place worth it "salt" would not /should not sell bad DT's, and make good on it for you , 'specially if you can prove you just got it,and make 'em smell it when you take it back .(it does say do not use if it smells ,on the bottle) make sure they keep their stock in the frig,
i've heard stories of LFS stocking it on the shelf with the other dry goods,,, 
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10-22-2003, 08:53 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Kansas
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Thanks
That's what I thought. If anything smelled as bad as this DT's I wouldn't use it. Seeing's how I didn't pay for it, I am not too concerned, but I don't want to be adding bad things to my water. Thanks again.
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10-22-2003, 12:29 PM
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Summer's Daddy
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lawrenceville, Ga in a van down by the river
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Yes, sometimes dts can go bad if it is too warm then cooled. Causes rot.
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10-22-2003, 03:00 PM
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squid
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
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2 questions
2 questions...
1--Does DT's have a shelf life? How long do can keep it in the frig and use it?
2--I've read of those that "make more DT's" by adding DT's to an empty 2 litre bottle and exposing to sunlight. Anyone doing this successfully?
Thanks
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10-22-2003, 03:21 PM
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Blacktip Shark
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Middleburg, VA
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The shelf life is usually posted on it and I'd be interested to hearing about the 2nd question anwser!
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10-22-2003, 03:23 PM
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Eat more PIE
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida Panhandle
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Re: 2 questions
Quote:
Originally posted by AuroraDave
2 questions...
1--Does DT's have a shelf life? How long do can keep it in the frig and use it?
2--I've read of those that "make more DT's" by adding DT's to an empty 2 litre bottle and exposing to sunlight. Anyone doing this successfully?
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Welcome to TRT AuroraDave
Yes it has a shelf life stamped on bottle
No you can not culture new Dts from it anymore they changed it so we cant.  From there website The old DT's live phytoplankton that contained only one species of phytoplankton were very much alive and it was possible to start new cultures, and many people used to do so. The new DTs now has more than one species and although still very much alive, it cannot be used as a starter culture. The species will compete with each other. Many people think that the 'strongest species will survive, but the only thing that is likely to survive will . The color of that cyanobacteria will likely be green, and the unsuspecting hobbyist will be adding cyanobacteria to there tanks, thinking that they're adding some pretty green phytoplankton. To grow good clean uncontaminated cultures requires a lot of time and effort. Many people that culture even a single species of phytoplankton eventually end up culturing cyanobacteria, and many times not realizing it. If you are going to culture you own, we recommend taking the time to do it right. Start by getting a copy of the Plankton Culture Manual, by Frank H. Hoff and Terry W. Snell. Before growing your own phytoplankton think about the nutrients and metals that are needed to feed the phytoplankton and how you can be sure they are removed from your cultures before you feed your reef tank. then look at our Cleaned and concentrated page.
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10-22-2003, 03:26 PM
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Blacktip Shark
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Middleburg, VA
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Hey WELCOME AURADAVE to TRT!!! THis is pretty wimpy, but... 
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10-22-2003, 03:48 PM
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squid
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago
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Casey--Thanks for the detailed answers.
I have been using Tahitian blend (frozen) and golden pearls (2 smallest sizes) since DTs costs too much for a larger tank.
Has anyone tried Cyclop-eeze? (I understand it is now available freeze-dried too.)
Any other ideas?
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10-22-2003, 04:29 PM
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Eat more PIE
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida Panhandle
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Dave I have cyclopeeze I cant tell it does anything. Have you thought about buying a culture and growing your own DTS? 
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