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Old 03-17-2007, 05:49 PM   #1
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Donut Coral Eating ....


Always wondered how these things get food into thier mouths ... I decided to drop some fish pellets on top of him today to see how he eats ... Pic1: Just put him in the tank (got him today) Pic2: about an hour later Pic3: dropped some pellets on him Pic4: moved his mouth over to shove the pellets in. coolness.
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Old 03-17-2007, 05:54 PM   #2
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Family: Mussidae
Genus: Cynarina
Species: lacrymalis

Nice feeding series shots, very good job!
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:53 PM   #3
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:07 PM   #4
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Old 03-17-2007, 08:19 PM   #5
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Great pix

Tom - you sure about that? Looks like a Scolymia sp. to me. I had a Cynarina lacrymalis it looked more like this:


This is Scolymia:


Not trying to be picky - these two species are often confused - and often misidentified - and I could well be wrong too. Even when I googled for images, I got some that appeared to be conflicting.

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Old 03-18-2007, 12:57 AM   #6
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I will find out and let you know soon, but I do believe it is a Scolymia ..... and thank you all for the comments
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:13 AM   #7
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Not as interesting as the initial thought in my head "Donut eating coral". But nice pics lol
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Old 03-18-2007, 09:17 AM   #8
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haha now that would be interesting! ... maybe I should try it? :P
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Old 03-18-2007, 09:49 AM   #9
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Could be either one, you cannot ID them with certainty by pix alone, you really need the skeleton to ID to 100%, just a comment to help clarify these LPS for those interested in further search.

Genus Cynarina are very seldom free living, usually existing as solitary polyps found attached to the substrate (this has to do with their development from the original settlement of the polyp) with a skeleton consisting of a single circular skeleton with many large septa arranged radially from the central median. They have very large primary septa with lesser secondary septa between each primary. All septa are toothed with prominent paliform lobes near the inner margins. These will become very large solitary specimens as they age, always with a single oral opening.

Genus Scolymia shares many of the common names that Cynarina spp. due to it's common appearance of the live specimens, however, skeletal evaluation of specimens will reveal a similar monocentric disc with many raised but obviously less prominent, more densely spaced septa without paliform lobes that generally slope outward to margins that have small spiny teeth. When similarly sized skeletons are compared side by side, the Scolymia is obviously heavier and denser, and living Scolymia specimens of similar age tend to often be of larger diameter but more flattened than Cynarina.

As far as the visual effect of living specimens, Scolymia tend to be drab olive to brown colors, even the occasional red specimen is more brick-colored, and when expanded, their tissue tends to be more flattened and opaque, conforming to the outward-sloping skeleton as described above than the Cynarina, which is most often nearly translucent in bright colors and more billowy, following the paliform lobes of the septa. Most often, Cynarina tissue is so translucent in healthy specimens that the septa may be visualized through the tissue, hence my ID for the Cynarina based on the photographs.

However, as I always say, all of the morphs of both genera are quite variable, and ID-ing ANY coral from a photograph is most often a crapshoot down to even Genus-level when making a taxonomic evaluation, so take such an id with a grain of proverbial sea salt. Seeing the spiny ridge at the outer margin does make me think of the [iScolymia[/i] though more than the Cynarina, and there are no large paliform septa in the initial photo...


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btw, the red morph of Scolymia is on the unusual/rare side, a good specimen to hold onto.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:17 AM   #12
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My both:
- cynarina (at arrival and later):


Eating:


Cynarina - at the left, scolymia (not in the best shape) - right:


- scolymia, in process of dividing, has 2 mouthes:

Eating:

Just curious, why it doesn't use tentacles to catch the food?
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nice shots! Mine does use tentacles to catch its food.
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