Diatoms building up!

[Sundown]

Hello everyon. I'm new to this forum and hobby.
I need help removing diatoms. the tank has been running for 10 days now. Diatoms building up after I put the 3 fishes, 4 corals and 11 hermit crabs on the 6th day up to this day. Do I need to remove the fishes and corals. Do I need to add emerald crab and shrimp now or later?


Thanks
Sundown

Pics will be added later. thanks

Setup:
29 gallon Rectangular tank with stand and canopy
6700K - 24watts and 460nm - 24 watts T5 HO fixture lighting
1 - Remora Protein Skimmer with Rio pump 1200
1 - Koralia 2
1 - 4 straight cooling fan
no Heater added coz its around 81 or 82 degrees. The fan brought it down around 76-78 degrees now.
no Sump

Fishes, Corals and cleaning crew so far:
1 - Royal Gramma
1 - Wrasse
1 - Blue Tank
1 - Green zoas
1 - Red Mushrooms
1 - Green Mushrooms
1 - Pulsating Xenia
11 - Hermit Crabs.

[schmnr]

Was the tank fully cycled before you added all the livestock? What kind of water are you using? What are you feeding everything and how much?

[Mr.Peanut]

The diatoms are just a normal part of the cycle.

You may have started stocking a little quickly, but as long as everything checks out, you shouldn't have to worry much. When I had my diatom bloom, everything in the tank was covered in brown. At that time I added 6 Mexican Turbo snails and they had it cleaned up in a few days.

[fihsboy]

Wow.....10 days! Thats pretty soon. Usually they say let your cycle go a month before you add anything. Thats part of the reason for your diatoms. But they will go away with time. Welcom to TRT!

[Brocnizer]

It took my tank about 10 days to do the nitrogen cycle. I started it with 1/4 clear ammonia added straight to the tank. I have a 36 gallon.

The Algae cycle took a lot longer. It was 7 weeks before my tank was clear.

All I added was a small clean up crew at 15 days: 5 blue hermits, 10 snails. They kept a lot in check during the algae cycle. I never fed them once and skimmed agresssive.

I used RO/DI water only and just yesterday added my first two fish. Currently there is zero nasty algae in the tank.

That being said, I think you will have a very long battle with algae as you are fueling the fire by adding so much live stock so early. The algae has to run its natural course first, ususally the diatoms first, then cyano, then the green alage.

With you having to feed the live stock you will also be feeding the alage secondarly.

Just do a lot of water changes and skim wet. I would say in 4-6 months the issue should resolve if you clean well. If you have poor husbandry then you may never get rid of the nasty alage

[Sundown]

Originally Posted by schmnr

Was the tank fully cycled before you added all the livestock? What kind of water are you using? What are you feeding everything and how much?

Thank you all for the reply. So far I dont think the tank was fully cycled. that was my fault. But I did check first all the Ammonia, Nitrate, Nitrite were all 0 or just a little bit of it. phosphate, Alk, Salanity, Calcium were ok, before I added all the livestock that I have now. I'm thinking building a small hospital tank like 10g for now, so I can transfer them. I might have to redo the whole process. Once I transfer my fishes, corals, and hermit to the 10g tank fully cycled. then I'll redo my 29g tank just to be safe so I can transfer them back there where they can swim fully.

Do you think that is ideal in my situation right now, just to speed up the process?

THanks a bunch again

Sundown

[Brocnizer]

A restart is a great idea if you can do it.

I am learning from my mistakes also so don't feel bad. I am restarting my tank from a 1000 mile move so I started from scratch again.

First time I went fast like you and had problems for the first year. It was such a headache but I finally got it under control.

This time I am going really slow and things are going great!

In reality, the slower you go in this hobby the more time you save! It is really hard to go slow, but just pretend you don't have a tank while things cycle.

So remember, let the bacteria cycle, then let the algae cycle. I feel if you wait for the algae cycle to end (can be 6 weeks to a few months) you will be off to a running start.

Others will agree, some will disagree with me. You'll figure out what works best for you though. I do many things others on here say are a big NO, yet it works good for my tank and style.

[fellers]

A media bag with some Phosgard will cut the ditoms down and take silicates out of your water.

[Jadinop]

"6700K - 24watts and 460nm - 24 watts T5 HO fixture lighting"

You have the wrong bulb. 6700k will grow algae like crazy, that is why it's typically used over refugiums. You will want to pick up a 10k bulb to replace it.

[sks4613]

I would be really leary about trying to put everything in a 10 gallon tank and start over. If the larger tank is out of whack keeping a smaller uncycled tank in line will be next to impossible. Typically the diatom bloom is the end of the cycle sow you should be ok. Get several turbo snails. Run phosguard. I would use Kent Marine as it should not release aluminum back in your tank to harm the corals. As others said go slow. Water changes, lower phosphates.

[Loverotties]

Originally Posted by sks4613

I would be really leary about trying to put everything in a 10 gallon tank and start over. If the larger tank is out of whack keeping a smaller uncycled tank in line will be next to impossible. Typically the diatom bloom is the end of the cycle sow you should be ok. Get several turbo snails. Run phosguard. I would use Kent Marine as it should not release aluminum back in your tank to harm the corals. As others said go slow. Water changes, lower phosphates.

I agree with this and when you do your WC you can suck up the diatom then.

[Austintatious]

I am curious about this algae bloom cycle..

I am just starting a tank... I have read a lot about an initial cycle to establish the bacteria but have not read anything on any sort of algae cycle... can someone elaborate?

[Sundown]

Originally Posted by Loverotties

I agree with this and when you do your WC you can suck up the diatom then.

Hello everyone,
This is my 3rd day observing my diatoms growing and they look alot darker now, and I notice some green stuff is showing too already. I'll wait for 2 more weeks how it will go, and then I'll buy some turbos and emerald crab and shrimp maybe. At this time I'll buy the phosgard, check levels and do some WC. I'll just observe my livestock how are they doing. Being said all of this. I have question: will this cycle process kill my corals and fishes? knowing it is still in the cycling process?

Thanks guys
Sundown Out

[Loverotties]

It can ,specially if you waite to do the WC.

[Sundown]

Originally Posted by Loverotties

It can ,specially if you waite to do the WC.

How often should I do my WC? and what is the last sign im looking into finishing the cycle? cyano and green algea? are this the last sign of process?