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Old 11-17-2013, 10:08 PM   #1
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Clownfish with baby Snowflake eel?


Straight out, in my 75 gallon FOWLR, I have a Flame Angel, Kole Tang, Blue Damsel, and a BABY snowflake eel. I have never seen a snowflake as small as the one I have. It is maybe 5 inches. So I was wondering if my pair of percula clownfish would coexist in this aquarium. Would an anemone help them? Advise please because I can't get a grasp on this decision. I know how big the eel will get, I also know the size of the clowns.
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Old 11-17-2013, 11:01 PM   #2
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How long has your tank been setup? And what order did you add these fish? Do you have any shrimp or crabs?
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:02 AM   #3
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Maybe, but don't be sad if it does get eaten one day. Your eel will double in size with regular, nutritious feedings in less than a year. A clownfish will not grow that fast.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:19 AM   #4
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The tank has been running about 5 months. First the damsel. Then the Kole Tang, the Flame. And then the Eel a few days ago. It is doing very well, along with all the others. No shrimp, a few hermit crabs(I understand they will run out, they are just to clean up for as long as they last) As of right now I am feeding him pieces of baby shrimp. Eating very well. I'm starting spot feeding early to help over time.
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:21 AM   #5
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And I understand about growth, by that time I am sure the clowns will not be in there but for the time of right now(I know I shouldn't use "Later they will be in a bigger tank" because it doesn't always happen aha, but I have a tank to use, just needs to be set up and cycled. But, as for the time being(A few months, I was just wondering if it would work. Another question though. Would a maroon clown, due to the bigger size, fare well with it? (After the perculas are moved out.)
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Old 11-18-2013, 02:54 AM   #6
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One thing make sure the eel is feed well right before lights out this being because the eel is most active at night and fish like to sleep low in the rank and can be easily bit if the eel is hungry...

Maroon clowns are beautiful but when mature and established will be a bully... also the damsel and the flame angel are going to not like a new buddy considering how terriorial they are... what you have going here is a semi aggressive fowlr tankand will have to be careful if adding a new fish

If you want a maroon you might have to find a big one... drip acclimate then float it in a clear holding container like at the fish store vt make sure it has holes in it... next see if there is any aggression rom other fish try to get at it... if it is ok then feed everyone and definitely the eel then lights out the feeding and lights out will decrease aggressive about 20 mins after lights out release the guy and let him find a safe place to hide and get to know the tank with his tank mates resting...

A tip if you dont already have one buy a red led light this will allow you to see in the tank without spooking the fish as they can process and see the red light
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Old 11-18-2013, 05:26 AM   #7
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Personally I wouldn't. Right now it won't eat it, however it is a predator and the clown is prey (as is the damsel). If it can fit in its mouth, one day it will no matter how you feed. It's just the law of nature. No matter how many times you chant "fish are friends not food" they don't like to listen!
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:15 AM   #8
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All eels belong in a predator tank, thier predators !
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:17 AM   #9
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Make no doubt, no matter how small your snowflake is now he WILL eat your fish in the future, probably in 6 months or less. It doesn't matter how much you feed it, even fish too big to eat will get attached. Also any snails or crabs will be quick appetizers.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:42 PM   #10
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Personally I wouldn't. Right now it won't eat it, however it is a predator and the clown is prey (as is the damsel). If it can fit in its mouth, one day it will no matter how you feed. It's just the law of nature. No matter how many times you chant "fish are friends not food" they don't like to listen!
From my experience with the last aggressive FOWLR I had setup, it takes an act of god for a snowflake to catch much of anything that moves quicker than a hermit. They are quite clumsey and have poor vision. On top of this, their natural diet is crustaceans vice fish. Mine was about 18-24" while I had it (along with a green wolf eel) and neither messed with the fish at all. That being said, the only thing small enough to be eatin in the tank were a couple of damsels that were used to cycle it and like I said, it would have taken an act of god for the snowflake to catch one. I fed the eel daily (whenever I got around to it), frozen (thawed) squid seemed to be it's favorite but I used clam as well (it would even eat Lifeline Green as would EVERY other fish in that tank including the lion LOL). I'd offer it using a pair of metal tongs and the eel would come right out to grab it. Other than feeding time, it would stick to a small area of the aquarium. I always wished it would eat the damsels but there was never even a close call. I wouldnt worry about the clowns too much even long term but during feeding time, the eel really doesnt care what is in front of it and will grab it!
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #11
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From my experience with the last aggressive FOWLR I had setup, it takes an act of god for a snowflake to catch much of anything that moves quicker than a hermit. They are quite clumsey and have poor vision. On top of this, their natural diet is crustaceans vice fish. Mine was about 18-24" while I had it (along with a green wolf eel) and neither messed with the fish at all. That being said, the only thing small enough to be eatin in the tank were a couple of damsels that were used to cycle it and like I said, it would have taken an act of god for the snowflake to catch one. I fed the eel daily (whenever I got around to it), frozen (thawed) squid seemed to be it's favorite but I used clam as well (it would even eat Lifeline Green as would EVERY other fish in that tank including the lion LOL). I'd offer it using a pair of metal tongs and the eel would come right out to grab it. Other than feeding time, it would stick to a small area of the aquarium. I always wished it would eat the damsels but there was never even a close call. I wouldnt worry about the clowns too much even long term but during feeding time, the eel really doesnt care what is in front of it and will grab it!
So disagree with this statement from personal experience, a snowflake will kill and eat your clowns, their nature is to kill and eat, period.,
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:50 PM   #12
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I have noticed currently mine seems to be the opposite. He is very fast. Yes, clumsy, but very fast. While feeding him tonight(baby thawed shrimp), he would strike it, perfectly, and it would be gone. Fascinating to watch. That being said, he does have his little den he stays with, but I hardly ever notice him there. It seems as though he is always swimming around, weaving through the rocks, finding new places to retreat too. Doesn't seem to bother the fish, they swim by him, stop and check him out, he just goes on with his business. I am feeding him every two days right now. Should that be increased, decreased? This is my first snowflake, I have done a lot of research, but this is a question I haven't figured out yet.
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:51 PM   #13
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And I have decided not to add my clowns. Maybe a maroon later on, but not for sure.
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