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Old 02-18-2009, 10:57 PM   #1
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Can/Should I move my anemone?


I've been a freshwater aquarist for 4 years and started my Marine tank 6 months ago.

I've just added my first invert: a long tentacle anemone (yippee!!) to my nanotank (20 gals) on 1/14/09. He's gone off to the bottom back corner of my tank and parked himself under the heater (keep my tank at 80 faren.) down in the sand and against the glass. I didn't do a good job researching the introduction process for the poor little guy and didn't hold him on the rocks when I placed him in the tank. I really want to give my false perc clown the best chance to match up. Should leave the anemone alone? (he seems VERY attached to the glass/sand...literally) My clown is showing it ZERO interest. I have had the clown for a few months already and my LFS says that the clowns loose their slime if they're away from anemone for a period of time.

Sorry this is a meandering post...love any and all advice....THX!!
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:03 PM   #2
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no matter if you move your anemone if its not happy in its place its gonna move to where ever its most comfortable.. your clown has to build up his slime coat before it will lye up in it..
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:06 PM   #3
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is there anything i can do to encourage the build up of the slime coat? the anemone seems VERY anchored in it's spot, can you provide any tricks to loosening it's grip so I can attempt to introduce it to the live rock again?
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:10 PM   #4
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the clown has do build up his slime coat by going to the anemone and getting stung(burnt) afew times until his slime coat has enough of a coat to resist it..each clown is different so it may not take to long or it may take a few times
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:15 PM   #5
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is there anything i can do to encourage the build up of the slime coat? the anemone seems VERY anchored in it's spot, can you provide any tricks to loosening it's grip so I can attempt to introduce it to the live rock again?
An ice cube on the foot will get some Nems to loosen up. The clowns will either take interset or they won't.If the clown want the nem it will build up its slime coat. Natural combinations have a better chance than random ones but it's always a roll of the dice. What concerns me is the tank size. minimum for nems is generally 30 gallons. They cannot take water param swings and a LTA is gonna get big for that tank anyway. 6 months is about the bare minimum time for a tank to be established before a nem is introduced. So there are a lot of things making it a bit spotty for the nem IMHO. Oh, BTW, another name for a LTA is sand anemone so getting him onto the rocks may never work
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:31 PM   #6
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yeah, I've been talking with my LFS about trading in my freshwater inhabitants so i can begin the process to turn my 55 gal into a marine tank. (then i'll convince my wife we need a 200 gal...mwahahahaha) i do check my levels regularly on the 20 gal. and always have water avail for 10% PWC weekly. thankfully, my parameters are all steady and appropriate as i monitor my levels every other day.

another thing, my anem had been grabbing the brine shrimp during feeding of my Clown and Foxface. I've just purchased some krill (read a post here someone fed their anem that) and he seemed to LOVE the krill (thawed of course)...how often/much should I feed it?

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Old 02-19-2009, 12:01 AM   #7
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You don't put anemones where you want them, they go where they want to be at. Means no matter how many times you move it, if it wants in the corner under the heater, thats where its going to move itself. They decide on there own where they want to be. Means you can move it but you would be wasting your time.

Whether a clown and an anemone pair up is a crap shoot. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. You don't put them in a tank and make them pair up, its something they do on there own and some clowns simply won't host a nem. They will end up preferring something else in the tank.

Clownfish AND a foxface in a 20 gallon tank? Yes, its time to upgrade the tank. I looked at a foxface (juvenile) and was going to put it in my 20 Breeder until it outgrew it and then move it to a 75. Decided against it because the 20 simply isn't large enough for clowns (I have two false percs in that tank as well) and the Foxface. So when I get a new one, it will go directly into the 75.

How often you feed it is going to depend on the anemone. Try feeding every other day and see how well or bad he does. If he gets to looking small, feed him more. The trick is not to overfeed it. But, I fed my RBTA daily.
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Old 02-19-2009, 12:35 AM   #8
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Clownfish AND a foxface in a 20 gallon tank? Yes, its time to upgrade the tank.


I'll take that as a gentle scolding for my impatience and desire for variety in my itty bitty... maybe the dude at the LFS was eager to make me happy when I asked if it was an acceptable idea? I'd like a couple other opinions on this choice (not that I'm saying u don't know what you're doing Mr. Hikk)

If there's a couple more votes for "I'm a bad fish-dad" I'll accelerate my plans on the 55.....then the 200 is that much closer......watch out wifey, i might have to get rid of the sofa...hehe
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Old 02-19-2009, 01:21 AM   #9
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Okay, so I've found a resource for info on my Foxface and it says he should be in a 70+ gal tank. I've called a friend of mine who has a 110 and he said he has plenty of room for him and he'll take him from me. So, now it's just my little Clown, the LTA, a turbo snail and a blue-legged hermit crab. This should allow me a little time to get the 55 gal going. And now the dude at my LFS is no longer to be trusted...ugh!

Thanks for the input folks...

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Old 02-19-2009, 02:16 AM   #10
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Glad you found it a home and that you found more resources that agreed with my advice. You can keep a foxface in the 20 as long as you know its going to outgrow it and that it isn't going to take it long. And then its going to need a larger home.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:59 AM   #11
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Welcome to TRT!!!

Good decision on the Foxface. Perhaps you can get it back from your friend after you upgrade.

One of the best things about this web site is that you will get advice from people who are not trying to sell you something. The guy at your LFS was not trying to please you, he was trying to make money. Unfortunately there are many out there like that and it takes a while to find one that actually cares enough about the livestock to tell you the truth and keep you from making a bad decision.

If you are interested in buying anything else, ask here before you do. You will get plenty of recommendations and usually from people with first hand experience as well.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:00 AM   #12
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The bottom line,they go were they want to and they can change there mind later too.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:09 AM   #13
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You should move the heater. Heaters have been known to kill anemones.

If the anemones foot is well planted, I would not try moving it. LTA's have very delicate pedal disks. Once they are damaged, few survive.

Like Jenglish said. LTA's are sand dwelling anemones. The odds of getting it to stay in the rocks is very slim.

I am a firm believer that if given enough time any species of clown will go into any species of host anemone. It may take a very long time though. It took my captive bred ocellaris over a year to finally move into a LTA.

While it's true that an anemone will move to where its happy, there are things you can do to limit the possibility of it moving.
LTA's typically want to extend their foot under rocks, and through the sand to something solid. They do not like alot of flow. If you can provide these conditions and give it plenty of room to spread out, the odds of it moving will be minimal.
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:07 PM   #14
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The bottom line,they go were they want to and they can change there mind later too.
So I've moved the heater, and I'll not worry about the fact he looks wedged into the bottom back corner of the tank, if he chooses to stay there he must like it there eh?

I'll turn down the circulation since this new LTA was the main reason I've put the power head into the tank in the first place. and I'll let cupid figure out the relationship between my clown an the anem...

Thanks a bunch for input gents...(and ladies?)

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lol! don't always ('ever' in most cases )trust LFS. trust TRT. We don't try and sell you things. The beauty of TRT comes from the many opinionated answers you get from all of us.
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