bleach coral shedding

davesy · 08-31-2002, 10:25 AM

im a newbie all i know that it is a hard coral. it turns white after about 3 days after adding it to the tank. now it is sheding its skin. my tank is 8 days old. try to explain to me what is the cause of this i have a live sand 5" thick and using live rocks. my tank is about 150 gallons 60x24x24 inches. using 4 atinic blue and 2 red 40 watts. have 2 rio 1100 in the tank. feather dusters look fine they are all ten now carpet anemone look fine too. and the two green chromis are ok. what happen to the hard coral. why it turns white. and why is it shedding. underneath the shed skin is white color also

Doug1 · 08-31-2002, 11:08 AM

If you tank is only 8 days old its prolly still going thru a Nitrogen cycle.
Are you using 6 40 watt light fixtures, none of which are a daylight lamp?

davesy · 09-01-2002, 02:22 AM

i have no daylight flourescent in my tank only 4 actinic blue and 2 reds will the coral recover? how many days?

davesy · 09-01-2002, 02:35 AM

i have no daylight flourescent in my tank only 4 actinic blue and 2 reds will the coral recover? how many days?

cwby416 · 09-01-2002, 02:58 AM

Why don't you have any daylight bulbs???

????

I have never even herd of putting red lights on a reef.....

I think that your coral died from lack of light and probably poor water quality. If your only 8 days into your tank you should not be adding anything until your rock, sand and fish have successfuly cycled your tank. After your cycle is complete then you definatly need to get some daylight in your tank.
I hope I dont come off mean, it just boggles me that someone would sell you coral for an 8 day old tank without proper lighting.

~Randy~

davesy · 09-01-2002, 04:14 AM

Thanx randy..
are daylight bulbs the ordinary flourescent we have in our home?
the person i ask to set up my tank for me seems in quite a rush he even add some fishes in it maybe he is in a hurry to finish my tank and collect his money.
whats ur suggestion about my lightings

Doug1 · 09-01-2002, 10:18 AM

You are going to need either VHO very Hi Output flourescent or Metal Halide lighting for hard corals

tdwyatt · 09-01-2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davesy
im a newbie all i know that it is a hard coral. it turns white after about 3 days after adding it to the tank. now it is sheding its skin. my tank is 8 days old. try to explain to me what is the cause of this...

Hmmmm...

As I have to be at work in less than an hour, I can't really respond adequately to this thread, but a lot of the problem is the lack of biological maturity of the food chains in this tank... Your system is mostlikely doomed to early failure unless it cycles VERY quickly. I would suggest before you purchace anything else for this system that you read either the Delbeek and Sprung books The Reef Aquarium or John Tullock's Natural Reef Aquariums to get the background on why reef systems are not simply "...add water and go..." systems.

Sorry I don't have any more time this morning, I will look back in tonight and see if others have already responded to this thread to give you some direction.

The Acropora (stony "white" coral) was most likely dead when introduced to your system if it was already white. These corals are brown or some shade of reef colors while alive, and only turn white when they have dumpped their symbiotic alga. I am sure there will be many who will contribute to this thread. I feel that you were taken advantage of by the folks that set up your system.

uurt · 09-01-2002, 01:03 PM

It sounds almost like your lfs saw a hot credit card attached to someone with no experience. I would consider a different store in the future if at all possible. Anytime I go to a new store and look, the personnel invariably ask what I already have, age of tank, what I'm interested in, then they give suggestions and pointers. It does make for better customer relations, and they generally won't try to take advantage of people.
Best of wishes for a rapid cycle.

Alice · 09-01-2002, 01:27 PM

I don't know how the stores are in PI so I'm not sure how much access you have to SW/reefing supplies. I know that you can order books online, even though it may be more expensive. Reading through old posts here will give you much information. You could do a search on "cycle" and nitrates and find almost enough to fill a book, more than likely.

You will need to get those red spectrum lights off of your tank pr it's going to grow a spectacular crop of unwanted algae. IMO, I'd find out about new lights, do a few water changes of maybe 20-30% of tank volume, do some reading here or elsewhere and not add anything else to your tank for at least two months, except for "the clean up crew" of snails and a few hermits after the cycle has completed. Go slowly when you do add livestock and research your choices, don't let the store talk you into anything of which you are unsure.

Patience and knowledge are key.

Good luck and keep us updated!

Alice

davesy · 09-01-2002, 07:00 PM

you all heard of something like it recovering, bcoz after the shedding the corals turns brown, no joking is it recovering. im still observing it though but the fact that is it is now light brown in color and hopefully the symbiotic algae you people talk about come back. bout the MH im still negotiating with the store owner for the price but i realize that it is really a must sp im buying it . thanks for your insights folks. really appreciate it.. maraming salamat po...

Doug1 · 09-01-2002, 09:09 PM

Are you sure its not the diatom bloom that occurs with new tank setup. I doubt seriously they will recover given your lighting

cwby416 · 09-01-2002, 10:00 PM

I'm with Doug on this one. That brown on your dead coral is just your algee that your tank will get while it is cycling. you should strongly push the LFS to take back the lights and get MH. especialy if your going to be housing hard corals.

How are your Feather dusters and Anenome doing????

~Randy~

davesy · 09-02-2002, 08:36 AM

randy and doug1 maybe your right but i will not have the chance to observe it further though, i rearange my tank today and i add some more LR and i dump the coral already maybe it is just not the time for it. i will surely get the MH, maybe after the water cycled ill try to find another one like it.

anemone is ok bigger now the feather dusters look fine... the coral just cant make it

Rick O · 09-02-2002, 08:57 AM

Hi Davesy. Welcome to The Reef Tank.

I would try to get the LFS to take back and hold your livestock for you until your tank is ready. Your tank isn't fully cycled yet and if you're still adding LR then chances are that it will cycle again.

Heed the advice given by TDWyatt and Alice and do some reading before doing anything else. I have seen far too many reefers drop out of the hobby from frusteration over having too many avoidable problems caused by rushing.

We're here to help you so if you have any questions or need a second opinon on something someone else may have told you then just ask.

bleach coral shedding

Re: bleach coral shedding

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