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10-08-2003, 07:35 PM
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Little Fishy
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black powder and aragamilk
black powder and aragamilk...
what do you guys think of these products?
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10-08-2003, 07:53 PM
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Reeferus Horribilus
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Snake Oil
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10-08-2003, 08:02 PM
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Reeferus Horribilus
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Sorry, that was a little on the brief side. Both these products have been fairly well analyzed in the different reef forums and found to be unable to perform as advertised.
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10-08-2003, 09:02 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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I gotta agree with Jay on this on, I have heard good things about Black Powder, but it may have been coincidental. On the whole all the products from that manufacturer have been hashed and rehashed on every BB that is remotely reef related. If there are any valid studies that show that its beneficial, I am not aware of them. Like the rest of MW products, the grandiose claims don't seem to be borne out by serious reefers. After 5 yrs on reef boards I know that if it was good, the testimonials would be rolling in, but.................
As far as the Aragomite, micro ground aragonite is still limited in how much can dissolve and be absorded due to insoluability at normal reef pH. Pickling lime is a much cheaper alternative to high priced Kalkwasser , all of which have measurable effects on a tank.
Bottom line, save the $$$$ on the high priced stuff, use good SW and frequent changes and use kalk to maintain levels after testing and determining your specific tanks needs.
Other than that the only thing I would recommend is Selcon, in conjunction with a decent feeding regimine based on tank needs. Don't waste time with all theose supplements they want you to use.
BTW WELCOME WizardGus, good to see you here 
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10-08-2003, 09:19 PM
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Little Fishy
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thanks for the info guys...
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10-08-2003, 10:17 PM
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Look deeply into my eyes
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Ditto previous posts,,,, 
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10-09-2003, 12:00 AM
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Stress Monger
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I tried Aragamilk when I first got into reef tanks and all it seemed to do was grow algae and cyano...
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10-09-2003, 07:03 AM
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Crazed Fish Whisperer
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If I may since it is closely related to this thread... what about Selcon? Your thoughts on that one?
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10-09-2003, 07:23 AM
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Look deeply into my eyes
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy1973
If I may since it is closely related to this thread... what about Selcon? Your thoughts on that one?
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Selcon,,,, 
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10-09-2003, 04:59 PM
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Reeferus Horribilus
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chisholm, MN ...all rail service terminates here.
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Soaking food in Selcon is a pretty time-tested means of adding nutrition to the food before being fed to your fish. I generally see a reaction in the corals as well, especially the softies. I've never seen a bad report on it, though there could be some I've missed.
Doug, thanks for the welcome! Nice place you have here. Well appointed and yet not too ostentatious! I have heard though that there is an admin over here called, Sparky or Spunky or something like that, that a person needs to watch out for. 
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10-09-2003, 11:17 PM
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Super Moderator
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Hehehehe, Yah you gotta watch for him, he's a reef ruckus raiser, but then what the heck, I have been known to venture into the depths of other boards and argue at times
BTW check out the Think Tank forum 
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