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05-19-2007, 02:55 PM
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Plankton
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bio cube wave flow
i dont know much about wavemakers. But i have a 29g biocube. i was thinking of putting the smallest size hydor korali on a timer to turn on every 15 minutes. or should i put 2 of them on timers having them switch every 15min. to make a wave pattern. Would that be too much. Responses appreciated
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05-19-2007, 04:04 PM
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The Ninja MOD
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If the coral and sand bed can handle the flow, I would go for two on an alternating cycle! You can play with the placement/ direction of the flow till you find what works best.
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05-19-2007, 08:13 PM
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The Ninja MOD
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15 minutes would work depending on the flow placement. Its not about a wave, its about creating flow that changes (random) in order to keep the detritus from settling in dead spots created by a general pattern resulting from flow that doesnt change. You can do it without alternating flow but it takes some plumbing and alot of outlet points in differetn levels of the water column.
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05-19-2007, 08:31 PM
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Shark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by motorslave
15 minutes would work depending on the flow placement. Its not about a wave, its about creating flow that changes (random) in order to keep the detritus from settling in dead spots created by a general pattern resulting from flow that doesnt change. You can do it without alternating flow but it takes some plumbing and alot of outlet points in differetn levels of the water column.
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waves alternating flow is also good for SPS and all corals. but it would be alot better to find a way to achive this without big tunzes and ugly wave boxes. i just started my new tank and plumbed a SCWD i love the thing. the hydro flow flow is also good for small tanks. also very cheap.
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05-19-2007, 08:38 PM
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The Ninja MOD
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Alternating isnt always needed. Here is my 150 CLS with one pump. Its a BB and the only thing collected on the botton wastwo tiny little piles in each corner. I have spent hours upon hours working on flow patterns and design with the intend of making effective. Ive wtched what slight changes will do and have a pretty good idea of what iot takes to achieve effective flow.
Not everyone can drill, some people want multiple PHs on a timer. It also works. The point is there are many ways to do it not one. The time between alternbating isnt a factor nearly as much as flow placement. I have built and discarded several designs for just one tank so Ive seen what works and doesnt.
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Last edited by motorslave; 02-15-2008 at 01:44 AM.
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05-19-2007, 08:40 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Tunzes are not big. They are way smaller than the koralias, but both are too big for a 29g. I have a couple of the Tunze 6045s, and they dont seem big to me. Youre in kinda a crappy spot, where I was with my 29g. You want flow, but not to take up tons of space with Powerheads. The only way for that is a closed loop. Otherwise, I think you can put a couple 6025s in there, and itd be good. Since theyre the same size as maxi jets.
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05-19-2007, 08:43 PM
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Shark
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Hmmm. I wonder if I can put the 6045s on the timer in 10-15 minute intervals. It seems like too much flow with the modded mJ1200 for now, with no SPS
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05-19-2007, 08:44 PM
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The Ninja MOD
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You can also do a CLS without drilling. The PVC would be visable though. How much would show would depend on the design. My first tank was a 55 with two CLSs and two external pumps. It worked great but you could see the PVC from one of the CLSs as it was a spray bar.
Having alot of flow isnt always a bad thing in a small tank. It depends on how its placed. You can bounce it off the front glass to difuse it and not blast the coral.
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05-19-2007, 08:45 PM
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The Ninja MOD
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Im going to see if I can find some pics from my first tank.
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05-19-2007, 11:18 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mississippi
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thanks for the responses. i think since i just started my tank, im gonna get the smalller size tunzes and put it on the right side of the tank. and my factor filter head blowing from the other. that should created a swirling motion, which i think will be sufficient. i can always add if not.
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