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Old 10-25-2005, 02:49 AM   #1
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Bio Balls: Good or Bad?


I have bio balls in the overflow section of my tank and was told by the LFS to remove them. I have LR and some polyps, but plan on getting corals in the future. Do I get rid of them?
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Old 10-25-2005, 03:20 AM   #2
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the short answer is yes, get rid of them. i am pretty impressed the LFS told you that actually. you may have a decent LFS by you. this is a kinda controversial topic. if you are planning on keeping a reef, then definately remove the bio-balls. if you are planning on keeping a FO tank, then you could possibly keep the bio-balls, but you will want to keep an eye on the Nitrate levels.

if you have a constant nitrate level of 20ppm and can not get below this, than it is caused by the bio-balls.

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:11 AM   #3
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I have balls too. My thoughts are as follows and are meaningless. If you have good quality lr as well as quantity and a very sensible bio-load, then dump em. If your gonna do it up germy style, then keep em.


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Somehow maintaining the largest bio-load ever conceived in a 75 with rock from a quarry in utah, while using a seaclone and touching everything all day long.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:20 AM   #4
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Had a real nitrate problem with bio-balls...remove them sloooooly, so that your rock bacteria can grow and take their place...you'll find if you do it slowly that ultimately your nitrate level will decrease without spikes in other water parameters, ie ammonia, and such because the LR now functions, taking the place of the bioballs...?did that make any sense? Anyway take out a small amount at a time, not all at once. I also used a little bacteria additive at this time to help out the rock...worked for me. Good luck.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:14 AM   #5
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Depends if you have enough LR!if you don't have 1 1/2 - 2 lbs per gallons then you need some.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:03 AM   #6
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yes...if you have at least 1lb per gallon, then start removing them at a rate of about 1 handful every week.

If you have a FO (fish only) tank, then you COULD keep them (not recommended).

Germy style is an option as well. But it's more for the Mt Dew drinking, Dorito eating, X-TREME type! hahahah (DIE HARD!!!!)

give us some more details about your set up.

btw...congrats on what sounds like a decent LFS!
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:37 AM   #7
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I like combos and Arnold Palmers sir. Yes, definately alot of quick decisions and risk taking, perfect.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:27 AM   #8
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Good to start a tank with! but after you are up and running, about 3 month's & loaded up with live rock & sand dump them slowley!
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:25 PM   #9
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i have a q can you compromise i have 30 lbs live rock in a 65G can i take out mabye some bio balls to reduce nitrate I have a nitrate of 20 ppm cant shake it
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:45 PM   #10
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personally I don't think how much live rock you have will make that much a difference. if you have live sand too, then that also can make up for the lack up live rock.

Jaydog-i would take out all the bioballs- as long as you have some live rock and some live sand then you should be ok. natural filtration is better than bio balls anyday! (shhhh just don't tell germy i wrote this!!)
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Old 10-25-2005, 03:25 PM   #11
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I have balls
sorry, just had to do it
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:29 PM   #12
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I have approx. 20lbs of live rock and 1.25 inches of reef sand for my setup which is a 40 gal with 18 gal sump. Should I keep the bio balls til I get more LR?
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:57 PM   #13
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I have approx. 20lbs of live rock and 1.25 inches of reef sand for my setup which is a 40 gal with 18 gal sump. Should I keep the bio balls til I get more LR?
i would take them out now if i was you. unless u have a serious bioload then i see no reason not too.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:02 PM   #14
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yeah ill start taking them out just scared that i might shock the system.
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Do it slow, just like everything else in the addictio... I mean hobby.
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