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Old 02-01-2002, 12:45 PM   #1
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Bare Bones RO


I have a 44 gallon tank and was wondering if a person can get away with just a counter top di unit or perhaps just a bare bones ro unit. Im on a limited budget and think that with my tank size 10 gallons per day is more than enough.

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Old 02-01-2002, 01:23 PM   #2
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I have poor tap water and the spectra pure (CHiP 2 stage)that seems to do an ok job (No alge, corals growing). I think I paid $100 for a 15gpd unit. I have to connect to the kitchen sink and 15gpd was VERY inconvenient. I just replaced the old filter with a 80gpd and would recomend the $$$ for the higher output. if more funds can be budgeted later you can add on a DI later.


this is IME only. I have never tested the output of the RO unit and only judge the quality of the unit by the succsess??(lack of failure so far, finding some wood to knock on) of my reef.
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:28 PM   #3
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Thank You


Thank you for the help. Im just getting started and have vowed to ask thousands of questions before setting my system up. I built my sump last night and I can tell that this hobby is very expensive but very rewarding. I dont plan on putting a drop of water in the tank until Im well researched

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Old 02-01-2002, 01:37 PM   #4
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Hi nmreefbeginner,

Good to have you with us!
I would recommend the best RO or RO/DI system you can afford. Good water quality is, IMHO, the single most important thing you can do for your tank. In order of ascending benefit, the systems available are:
Tap Water > Tap Water Purifier (DI only) > 2 Stage RO (Bare Bones) > 3 Stage RO > 4 Stage RO > any of the RO units will be enhanced by addition of the DI cartridge.
You may not need 100 gpd, but bear in mind, most of us aren't going to run the unit all the time so that the higher output, the less time needed to run the water you need.

Check our sponsors for specials and any other vendors for best prices. You can get a pretty good setup sometimes for less than $150.

The Tap Water Purifiers (I've been using one; RO/DI is on the way ) gives fair water at a lower initial cost. However, the cartridges run about $16 apiece and may be good for between 50-100 gallons before replacing, depending on your local water system quality. That adds up rather quickly to the price of a decent RO/DI!!!!
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:39 PM   #5
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Welcome to TRT, nmreefbeginner!

Take it from someone who has been stuck using tap water for a year now, any kind of water purification unit is better than none at all, especially when dealing with nuisance algaes and toxic metals. Definately get the unit that will provide the most completely purified water possible (ro and di ). I'm not going to get into what to get and pro/cons of differant models since I don't have first hand experience there, but, I will mention that if a good ro/di unit is out of your price range right now, some initially cheaper but more expensive long-term solutions might be to buy water from a good water store (some supermarkets also sell purified water now) or a small unit such as the Tap Water Purifier from Aquarium Pharmacuticals (the cartriges are usually good for about 50g then need replacing or recharging-makes decent water, though). Good luck! Hopefully, some of the water quality experts will step in to help you out, too.
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:50 PM   #6
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Guess we were all posting at the same time! Just thought I'd add to what the others are saying about going with a larger unit. Consider that a 10gal day unit will require that you run it all day long for 4 days to make 40gal pure water. While it is making that 40 gal, the waste water is running down the drain. A 50gal day unit will get the job done in less than a day, which also means considerably less waste water, too. HTH
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Old 02-01-2002, 01:51 PM   #7
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I'm currently using the DI filter by Aquarium Pharm ($50)and it does a good job (I had minimal algae blooms during my cycle & my tap water has major phosphates) and I top off on my 30 gal tank / 10 gal sump is only about 1/2 gal a day so the replacement filters ($20) lasts a good while. This are retail prices...on the net you can probably save $10 on the unit and $4 each on cartridges. But like FishDaddy said it'll soon add up to and surpass the cost of a good RO unit....but shelling out the cash all at once was/is tough for me right now. Reefing on a budget can be difficult but is possible !

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Old 02-01-2002, 02:18 PM   #8
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Many Many Thank Yous


I have got to tell you all thank you and that im am so lucky I found this site. After dealing with fresh water piranas and sting rays I though I was ready for salt water. Not so fast. There is alot more that goes into these tanks than an outsider who thinks there pretty would ever know. I am fortunate that I found this site and dont have to rely on my not so local fish store for adoce. They are nice enough but just seem to be way off base on what ill need. Thank you all very mech
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Old 02-01-2002, 02:44 PM   #9
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Yes a 3 or 4 stage would be much better. I went for the high flow 2 stage because because the cost and 15gpd ties up the kitchen sink for long periods at a time (makes the reefgirl very mad). Also 5 kids and 10-12hr workdays (plus DC traffic), just finding time and the proccess of hooking up the RO unit is a pain. We also use the RO unit as drinking water so just some things to think about.

So maybe the high is only good for unusual circumstances like mine and the fact that I just did not want to spend $350+ for a 100gpd 3 or 4 stage unit when I only paid $100 for the original unit plus extra $30 (for the 80gpd over the 15gpd)when it was time to replace the filter.. Also the waste might not be a factor because at least my unit give 1 gal of good water to 4 gal of waste no matter what the flow.
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Old 02-01-2002, 05:52 PM   #10
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I know of the best place to get RO/DI Units anywhere, E-mail me at clearskys7@yahoo.com
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Old 02-01-2002, 06:08 PM   #11
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I agree something is better then nothing. Maybe your LFS sales it I know we sell it for .40 cents a gallon so it is pretty cheap. Just make sure you designate a bucket for it so its clean.
You certainly can order a bare bones unit I think they are about 99.00 I can check for you if you want.
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Old 02-01-2002, 11:55 PM   #12
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Thanks


Thank all of you for the help. I think Ill wait for a while and get a good unit.

The advice let me know what my wallet feared was true

Thanks again

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Old 02-02-2002, 07:01 AM   #13
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Could you buy R/O water from a local grocery store?
I have a 55 gal. and I used store bought R/O for a couple
of years before I bought a R/O unit for my home.
The water quality was fine. I had no problems.
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