are these pre crash pics of my tank?

[dv3]

so i been having this problem ...first i thought they were diffrent problems but now i think they might be related

first i thought i had a dino ...but then i thought i had it was under control
http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134962
then i realized i had a low alk problem ....i just did a water change to try and correct it and the problem was much worse than i thought
http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6...lk-134846.html


so heres some pics please tell me what you think it is
the camera really didn't capture the color of these first 3 pics the "stuff" was more of a reddish brown ...they were taken after i did a 50% water change before i added the new water and this stuff was floating with the power heads off


this stuff is floating in the water its not on the glass in all 3 pics





after i added the new water all the "stuff" turned a white/yellow/greenish and there was way more than was visible before and majority of it sunk to the bottom ..no my tank is covered in this crap
sorry the pics are a little blue this time for some reason


this stuff was there but it was reddish before and it pretty much grew over night

sponge is covered in stuff now

[Hop]

Dinos...

Reduce light, skim wet, stop doing water changes, try using po4 media and wait it out. You can also siphon it out, but I found this only made things worse in my case, but the tank was 450 gallons.

A crash refers to parameter issues that kill everything in the tank. This is just a bacterial driven PITA. It took me over three months to get rid of dinos when I had them, although this strain looks different than what I had.

[dv3]

Originally Posted by Hop

Dinos...

Reduce light, skim wet, stop doing water changes, try using po4 media and wait it out. You can also siphon it out, but I found this only made things worse in my case, but the tank was 450 gallons.

A crash refers to parameter issues that kill everything in the tank. This is just a bacterial driven PITA. It took me over three months to get rid of dinos when I had them, although this strain looks different than what I had.

ok thats kinda what tom said in the dino thread ...but he couldnt be sure it was dino from my old pics ...siphoning it out is impossible ...i did a 50% water change and didnt even touch it ...actually it got alot worse for some reason (like you said) ....my parameters were off too calc, mag,and alk i had got them back up a lil by dosing i thought this might have something to do with the dino and create a crash

[Hop]

Just let it ride. You can try raising pH through kalk since there is some study indicating that an elevated pH creates a hostile living environment for it But don't do it through buffers, just do a kalk drip or add it to your top off. There is something in the salt mix that fuel the growth and just letting it starve is best. Sorry I can't help like Tom did... I'm not a chemist, so I stay away from the big words and graphs

[dv3]

how does dino get in our tanks ...is it possible that my crappy di resin i got from pwc (pure water club) that is really dark brown on the bottom half could be causing this ...im not sure if the resin is bad or just their version of color changing ...but i plan on changing it out anyhow in the next couple days with the new stuff i got from buckeye field supply ...but if its possible that the dinos came from that then maybe a water change would help in this case

[dv3]

Originally Posted by Hop

Just let it ride. You can try raising pH through kalk since there is some study indicating that an elevated pH creates a hostile living environment for it But don't do it through buffers, just do a kalk drip or add it to your top off. There is something in the salt mix that fuel the growth and just letting it starve is best. Sorry I can't help like Tom did... I'm not a chemist, so I stay away from the big words and graphs

so should i change salt? ...this did start after i switched to RC.....glad to see someone defeated it that's on my level ( no offense) so i appreciate the input

[Hop]

Probably not. They are one of those things that can come in on rocks and are likely present on many of the things were introduce. It is usually newer tanks that have the problem. I've also noted that tanks with dry base rock seem more susceptible to it.

[Hop]

Originally Posted by dv3

so should i change salt? ...this did start after i switched to RC.....glad to see someone defeated it that's on my level ( no offense) so i appreciate the input

Nope... Not for this anyways. You may want to change for other reasons. I use RC and like it. No major issues with it.

[dv3]

Originally Posted by Hop

Probably not. They are one of those things that can come in on rocks and are likely present on many of the things were introduce. It is usually newer tanks that have the problem. I've also noted that tanks with dry base rock seem more susceptible to it.

this tank was established for several years before i bought it and moved it ...it was set up for several months at my house before it became a problem ..i really havent added any thing in a couple months

[Hop]

Originally Posted by dv3

this tank was established for several years before i bought it and moved it ...it was set up for several months before it became a problem ..i really havent added any thing in a couple months

Certainly can't say the issue wasn't there already getting ready to rear its ugly head. There could have been a po4 and no3 issue ready to let loose and the use of old sand or the fact the rocks were loaded and the tear down and set up brought out the issue...

[dv3]

i really wish i knew more before i bought this tank ...it was recommended that i change the sand but i thought it would be fine ....i really hope thats not my problem and a problem that is going to continue to haunt me

[Hop]

Well if it is you just suck it out

You'll have to ride this one out though before making drastic changes.

[fox2589]

i did start getting algae like this not too long ago...and not too long ago i switched from IO to RC..just a thought-drew

[dv3]

i switched from io ...hmmm ....could that really be it

[Hop]

Nah... Happenstance. I'm sure the researchers that study dinos would have figured that out There isn't a single shred of evidence to indicate that any particular salt if more apt to cause a dino outbreak.