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Old 10-24-2000, 07:02 PM   #1
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Aquaculture and food for thought


With the idea of needing to feed you coral more often I was trying to think of a good way to do mass feeding for aquaculture for extra growth at a safe level. Since most frags are small going with a shallow vat with a lower volume of water you could shut the main pump off and feed a high amount of food. Wait for the corals to feed then just drain the small volume of water off. Turn the main pump back on. Keeping the vat shallow also will allow for less light to be needed. So what do you think?
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Old 10-24-2000, 09:30 PM   #2
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Sounds like a reasonable plan to me. The same effect as starting plants in cold frame to get a jump on growth with more controll over environmental parameters. Shallower tanks won't take as much light and flushing nutrient rich water would be easier in the setup you describe. Have fun

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Old 10-25-2000, 11:11 PM   #3
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This is how I do my mushroom and colt coral suttings, along with good lighting and a refugium for non-feed periods... the biggest problem is still that residual food is in the system, especially if you use a fairly concentrated (rotifers, prepared phytoplankton, wild caught zooplankton, etc) to feed them, even if you all but drain the system (to low tide...) Part of what may affect the use of such methods is where the broodstock came from, and from what microcosm the broodstock originated. so far, for mushrooms, colts and toadstools (all from similar microcosms) this method works well, but not as well as heavy overflow from an established refugium. I am tempted to place a shallow dish of seagrasses in the tank (15 inches deep less 4 inches of coarse sand/crushed coral in a 90 gal breeder, shallow wide and long) to see if this will speed up grow out time. So far, for these spp., the effect from the refugeum has been the best at speeding up growout, I will be altering alk levels to see how this affects them. Although these spp. do not use a lot of Ca, high Ca and Alk seems to speed up the growout as well. Unfortunately I do not have a lot of supportive data, nor are these controlled evaluations of the growth, it just seems that it happens this way. I would think that sps corals would benefit more so from this idea, as the foods they thrive on have a diurnal pattern in the ocean (mostly at light changes daily, ie sunrise and sunset). Good Idea, just adding my 2cents worth...
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Old 10-26-2000, 10:05 PM   #4
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tdwyatt I was thinking to use this method alone with a refugium.
Now that you mention it. After Addey stating the corals grew better with the algae could it be the algae or the buggs? Or is it a combination?
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Old 10-26-2000, 10:10 PM   #5
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tdwyatt I was thinking if you have good luck with maxing you cal and alk I could try to refine my mix a little. If the first form does not hit the high numbers you like let me know which ones you would want elevated more as far as cal,alk,ph,mag,stront or other chems.
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Old 10-27-2000, 05:35 PM   #6
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I don't know if the improvement in growout (both percentage survival of the cuttings and speed of growout) is due to a feeding factor, some organism-stabilizing factor, or a water quality parameter. As I have no data to support my observations (just the numbers surviving), I can't even tell you if the results were due to the maturation of the sand bed in the growout tank (ha! that will change this month if it is the maturity factor!!!) This might be a good question for SallyJo or Leroy at GARF, I know that they are actively persuing this topic... on the Ca additives, I will be starting a regular testing of the testable parameters (something I do once a 3 or 4 week period now) at least once every week, maybe once every 3 days, to be able to track any trends that develope while this next batch of polyps comes to maturity. More later, gotta go fow now... (it IS Friday nite...)

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Old 10-27-2000, 06:55 PM   #7
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Hi Tom,

Looking back on the various grow-out configurations I've used, I'm inclined to believe that the big difference with using shallow containers is improved gas-exchange and temp stabilization (at least fro me here in the tropics), and more frequent maintenance due to easy access.

I'm not sure light vs. fluid depth is such an issue in view of the tolerance range for most corals, if you're looking at just growth rates (I admit I can't relate to smpolyp's economic angle --my lighting comes free of charge )
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