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Old 10-05-2001, 01:53 PM   #1
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My anemone has been aimlessly floating and moving along the bed of the tank for several weeks. He'd been in one corner for about a month and seemed so happy with the clowns. What makes them unattch themselves and is this a normal occurance? I cant remember the name of this typr anemone..not a bubble tip...starts with an h
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Old 10-05-2001, 03:23 PM   #2
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Hi there!! One of the main problems with anenomes is they will move until they find a spot suitable for them. Right amount of current and lighting makes them happy.
Sounds like yours is not happy yet!! What kind of lighting do you have and how big is your tank? You need to watch that the anenome does not get sucked up in a powerheard, or overflow box, or whatever you may have....
I will find some more info on them for you. Johnny

P.S. Here is some more info on anenomes!!
http://www.thekrib.com/Marine/anenome.html

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Old 10-05-2001, 05:08 PM   #3
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I have this bubble tip that sits in one spot for a few months, then decides to go on 'walk about'. Nothing in the tank has changed, he just likes to wander for some reason. I thought it was lighting, then I thought it was current, then maybe temp. no............. he is just wierd.

He has the talent for liking horrible spots to stay - back side of the live rock, under a rock, in a crack out of the light, on top of the powerhead, on the skimmer, on top of the mushrooms.......

I moved him to the FOWLR tank to keep him off the shrooms which has been his latest favorite place to sit. I also had a condylactus that was given to me and has since been passed on. The kids named him cloud because he floated around in the tank for weeks. I hated that anenome!!
Anenomes are a pain. Anyone want mine? He is a pretty pinkish coral color..... but moves frequently.
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Old 10-07-2001, 10:04 AM   #4
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Thanks to all who responded. Lighting is fine. The anemone has been great up to the last sevral weeks. Today she has shrunk. Her tenticles lifeless....and she looks as if her insides are coming out. Not the brown excretion that I have seen in her healthier past but white bubbly textured crap. Could she make my fish sick with whatever she has?
Should I end it for her? She looks so sick and It kills me to see her shriviling up. I've checked water, and have done all test. Everything is up to snuff. What is a reasonable life expectancy of these creature in captiviity? She has been in the tank for 7 months and thrived.

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Old 10-08-2001, 07:02 PM   #5
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Hi CME...

How did it do today? If it died, you'd best scoop it out into a container, don't try to pick it up or net it or it will disintigrate all over your tank You will want to remove it or it will foul your water.

Do you know why it died? 7 months isn't very long in relation to how long they live, but it's odd that an animal like that did well for that length of time and then declined suddenly.

Did you change anything in the tank too quickly? Were you feeding this animal?

On another note..I see you are in Atlanta....I'd like to let you know that we have a club here, it's FREE....we're meeting Tuesday October 9 and we're having a field trip on the 28th!

I'd like to invite you to join us! You can find out what you need to know at http://www.atlantareefclub.org

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Old 10-09-2001, 12:57 PM   #6
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Do you know why it died? 7 months isn't very long in relation to how long they live, but it's odd that an animal like that did well for that length of time and then declined suddenly.
Actually, 5 to 7 months is the lifespan of one of these creatures if they are not photosynthesizing or getting adequate nutrition from feedings as well. They can live for this period of time if they are acquired from the wild where they had good nutritional capture from both prey and photosynthesis. Their stored lipoproteins and glucans allow them to survive in this manner for quite some time, although their demise is usually very quick once these stored nutritional supplies are consumed.

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....and she looks as if her insides are coming out. Not the brown excretion that I have seen in her healthier past but white bubbly textured crap.
This is very common as the os and siphonoglymphs lose the ability to adequately function. If the "brown" stuff ejected was dark brown and stringy, you may have witnessed the partial ejection of the zooxanthellae, unfortunately also part of the demise of many anemone. Sometimes, even with adequate lighting, the shipping of these creatures will occasionally make them dump their zooxanthellae, especially if they are then kept in holding tanks with little or no lighting. Peter Holthus and MAC are addressing this issue through certification of the chain of custody for all imported ornamentals so that specimens and situations like this do not occur.

I am so sorry to hear that you lost your anemone, they are very captivating and interesting creatures to study and propagate. I would suggest that you do a great amount of research on these creatures before getting another, and then trying to get one that is tank-raised/captive propagated. Dr. MAC in Baltimore has captive-propagated anemone, and Entacmaea quadricolor would be a good specie to try once you have developed a good environment for them to be kept in. They require a very mature tank (preferably with a large refugium) and good husbandry skills for these delicate creatures to survive, much less to thrive.

Without a description, I will have to assume that the anemone you had was of the genus Heteractis, commonly known as Ritteri or the Long Tentacled Anemone. These generally have a poor record of survival in captivity, even with experienced aquarists, and I would not recommend them to most aquarists whether they are experienced (I heard "Old Salts" somewhere here ) or not. In a survey that Eric Borneman did in 1999, there were none surviving in captivity even with experienced aquarists for more than 2 years, although there are some that have lived for as long as 10 to 12 years in some large public aquaria. E. quadricolor would be a much easier and more successful choice of anemone to keep. Even if you choose an E. quadracolor, I would suggest that you maximize your tank for the survival of this creature before attempting to acquire one, expecially if your tank is less than 18 months old. These are not easy creatures to keep, and they realistically require a great deal of attention to detail and constant committment to their husbandry (feeding especially!)
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Old 10-09-2001, 01:22 PM   #7
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Jenn, Thanks for turning me on tot he atlanta reefers. I registered on that site, I will try to make the meeting tonight as it is only a few miles from my home.
As far as the anemone...She's gone to anemone land. Its strange that my carpet is thriving...in fact my little maroon clown has found solice in this little guy who I fondly refer to as sphintky. He has grown from 2 inches in diameter to 4.5" and has great color. Eat like a pig. I've got a request for a bubbletip and hope the shop get a few healthy specimens in soon. MY tank is doing quite well. Its generating good algae growth and all is in sync. I was told by the fella at the aquarium store (marine biologist btw) that the carpet anemone is more fragile than most common anemones such as the bubbletip and the (hiteractus, yes this was the one I'd inherited). Thanks Wyatt for your wise words and to all! I will do my homework.
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