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Old 05-13-2005, 04:14 AM   #1
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Aggressive fish friendly corals and anenomys


hi could anyone tell me if there are any corals or anenomys that are ok with aggressive fish that will not be killed or kill the fish ..... i would also like to ask if anyone has put capulara algae clumps in to a big fish system and had it survive,, any help appreciated thanks
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Old 05-13-2005, 04:43 AM   #2
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I put Caulerpa racemosa in my tank and I really wish I didn't. It just starts growing and gets all over the rocks and coral and I am now in the middle of a losing battle trying to get it out. If you like that then go right ahead, otherwise I would stick to keeping it in a sump. All it really needs is salt water and some light. I know it's a great source of natural food for fishes such as tangs, but I don't have a big enough system for one. Other than that I like it because it's a nice filter, I just think it messes up the clean look of a tank.


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Old 05-13-2005, 06:08 AM   #3
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Many corals are fine for aggessive tanks, you may have to beef up the water movement and skimmer, try to keep waste up an out.

anenomes are another story. even if you are a mean fish it will still taste good to him if it grabs it.



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Old 05-13-2005, 06:40 AM   #4
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The agressivness of the fish really has little to do with how it gets along with corals. A fish's aggressivness rating is more about how they interact with other fish.

For corals, you need to worry more about how "reef safe" the fish is.

Stay away from Triggers, boxfish(puffer's), parrotfish, butterfly's and Angel's, and you should be good.

There are a few exceptions. There are some angel's (mostly pygmy's) that are fine in a reef tank. And there are some fish not in those categories that can still cause problems for some corals.

Just ask around/search/read until you find a particular fish's reef compatability, and you'll know.



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Old 05-13-2005, 10:10 AM   #5
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Stay away from Triggers, boxfish(puffer's), parrotfish, butterfly's and Angel's, and you should be good.

There are a few exceptions. There are some angel's (mostly pygmy's) that are fine in a reef tank. And there are some fish not in those categories that can still cause problems for some corals.
Some exceptions:

I keep two male Xanthichthys auromarginatus Blue Chin (aka blue throat, blue jaw) triggers who are a delight. I was warned that they might eat shrimp and snails. I had no shrimp anyway and they've never bothered my snails, however I feed them several times a day to reduce the temptation. The second trigger that I purchased was supposed to be a female but colored up and turned out to be a male. Nonetheless, the pair is friendly with each other. Their tunneling in the sand under the rocks was a big problem, causing eye infections in my Blueface Angel (more below) that I had to pull the rocks out and put a piece of plastic eggcrate

Crosshatch triggers Xanthichthys mento are also said to be reef safe, though at $400 to $500 each, they are a bit spendy. LiveAquaria.com is currently offering a female. My LFS had a male for awhile with which I was totally in love; very friendly and responsive to people. Unfortunately it died after the LFS put it in a small tank.

My flame angel Centropyge loriculus has been no problem. I've heard them described as about 50/50 reef safe; it just depends on the individual. If you buy one, make sure you can return it. Though pretty, mine isn't all that interesting or personable. I don't have experience with Coral Beauty Centropyge bispinosusdwarf angels but they have a good reputation for being reef safe. I had a Yellow or False Lemonpeel Centropyge heraldi dwarf angel who nipped at clams.

I have no experience with the various Genicanthus species swallowtail angels, but have been told by my LFS who carries them that they are all reefsafe. His pair of Bellus angels was very pretty.

My Blueface Angel Euxiphipops xanthometopon is my pride and joy. Absolutely gorgeous; spends most of its time in its cave, usually only coming out to eat or to cruise around after lights-off. It gets very offended when any of the other fish, especially the triggers, come near its little cave and chases them off. Also gets belligerent when my rabbitfish comes near the Nori algae clip while the angel is snacking. None of the other fish take the angel's antics very seriously.

The downside of my angels is that I had to remove my Lobophyllia, Trachyphyllia and Scolymia open brain corals from my large tank. The angels nipped them so often that they stayed closed. Clams are also at risk, though I've had no problem with any but the False Lemonpeel.

I would caution you not to buy any of the fish I've mentioned (except possibly the Genicanthus angels) unless you can return or trade them, as individuals may behave differently.



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Old 05-13-2005, 01:19 PM   #6
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so judging from the bio / parrot fish puffer triggers.etc stay with the algeas and no corral,, whats torch corral like with fish,,,, is there a way to splice the normal ocean rock to make live rock, i have pleanty of coepods, and live krill hidding from my fish lol
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