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03-17-2007, 01:03 PM
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Little Fishy
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Added 3 fish, okay?
Got to false clowns and a firefish goby (b/c wife and kids wanted to see something other then the 6 snails in the tank)
Numbers were still 0 across the board.
And they were all no bigger then 1.5".
I still intend to get a load of snails and crabs during the thatfishplace sale tommorow (it is today too but I got peeps coming over)
I should be okay adding them also right? It is a 90g with 115lb LR and sand.
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03-17-2007, 02:32 PM
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Shark
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90g with 0 readings, and these are your first fish? I Dont really see there being a problem. Ideally its best to add as little as possible, but I think thats a large enough tank where you wont see too many adverse effects. ID wait a couple weeks before adding anything else though.
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03-17-2007, 02:37 PM
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I'm Kinda Bored
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sounds like a good start
I'll second the wait 3-5 weeks before adding the next fish
patience is key in being successful
when I worked at the LFS, I would tell my customers that
Bad things happen fast, catastrophes are quicker
don't try to help either one out
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03-17-2007, 02:52 PM
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Shark
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Its not like adding 3 tangs, or large fish. But those 3 do equal one large fish, if not 1.5. So even though theres a sell tomorrow, I wouldnt buy anything lol
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03-17-2007, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by know-it-all
sounds like a good start
I'll second the wait 3-5 weeks before adding the next fish
patience is key in being successful
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The perfect response.
You probably would have been better off adding some type of herbiverous fish to clean algae as it appears on the rock, etc, as it begins to grow in response to your rising nitrates. At 5 or 6 weeks, buy a bristletoothed tang of some sort to clean both substrate and rock. Cheverons are good, as they will also clean up other fish poop and leftovers from the feedings to keep your tank cleaning to a minimum.
HTH
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03-17-2007, 03:14 PM
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Shark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdwyatt
The perfect response.
At 5 or 6 weeks, buy a bristletoothed tang of some sort to clean both substrate and rock. Cheverons are good, as they will also clean up other fish poop and leftovers from the feedings to keep your tank cleaning to a minimum.
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ITs also only a 90g, so thats pretty much too small for any tang Id think. Try a scribbled rabbitfish. They eat tons of algae, and theyre real pretty. I even like the orange spotted lawnmower blennies. And the normal LMBs seem to work well for the filmy algae, mine doesnt touch any hairy or grassy algae though.
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03-17-2007, 04:21 PM
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For low-aggression spp like the Chevron (grouped as Ctenochaetus spp.), 75 gal will be fine, as for most of the small tangs so long as there is adequate swim room for sudden burst of speed common to Acanthurus behavior (however, Ctenochaetus behavior seldom exeplifies this). I concur that the 90 gallon and up recommendations for the larger spp of tangs, as definitely the larger they are, the more open space they need, and if I were to err on swim space for tangs, I'd err to the large swim space. However, for most of the Ctenchaetus in captivity, growth above 12 cm is rare, though may occur if there is plenty of feeding available in a larger system or caught as large specimens in the wild for ornamental sale. Their behavior as primarily detritus and film feeders keeps them as butterfly swimmers: they flutter about the rock and bottom primarily and seldom take on the bullet bursts often seen with Acathrurus, making them ideal for this type of environment (I still would not go below 75USG as recommended by Helmut Debelius). For this genus in general, their unique jaw structure makes it much easier for them to feed off the bottom and on rock in general, where they primarily feed for films containing high concentrations of unicellular algae they can either scoop from the sand or scrape with their bristletoothed lips from hard surfaces. Much calmer as a genus than other Surgeonfishes, and probably much beter suited for captive care than the surgeonfishes as a whole (though I doubt that we'll ever see the day that the yellow tang will not be the most popular herbivore in marine fish sales...)
just my 2cents...
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03-17-2007, 04:40 PM
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I'm Kinda Bored
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to add another in there,
scopas tangs stay fairly small as well
I read the ultimate size is around 8"
but I've never seen one over 5"
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03-17-2007, 05:33 PM
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I've got the REEF rash!
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That's alot of sand!
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03-18-2007, 09:55 AM
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Little Fishy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loverotties
That's alot of sand!
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Sorry it is 115 lbs rock, and the sand I think is about 90, which only gives me about 2"
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