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Old 10-19-2009, 07:30 PM   #1
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2 emerald crab deaths :( Insight as to why?


So I got a 28 gallon tank a little over a month ago- established for over a year from the previous owner with some critters being in his possession for up to 3 years.

I have his exact setup, same rocks, same creatures. I had 2 emerald crabs. One died after a week- it was 2 years old. The other, after days of searching, I just found today, devoured over a period of days i assume by my banded serpent starfish (been running ammonia checks to see if there was a spike but I am still below .25).

I just dont know how this could happen. I am not over feeding, but this guy was only feeding 1/2 frozen cube per WEEK to the tank. I am doing 1/2 cube every other day as he recommended. Water temp is good (74-78), salinity fine (.23)... what else do i need to check? Any idea what I did or if they just naturally decided to die after this move? I am bummed...

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Old 10-19-2009, 11:01 PM   #2
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pH? Sand bed? Anything else going on in the system? What's your stocking list. How about lights? Sounds dumb but they could have an impact. .25ppm should be a non issue for an emerald crab. How about your hermits and snails? Are you dosing anything. RO/DI water? How about KH? Nitrites? Nitrates?
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:19 PM   #3
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Inverts can be sensitive to change. Maybe it was just old and the change was too much for them. I would look into Jason's questions but it could be just old crabs and the little push to that big reeftank in the sky
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:25 PM   #4
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Yeah we moved my gramma once and she died, the doc said she was just old.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:30 PM   #5
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nitrites nothing, ammonia nothing, ph about 8.1 (i think i need to get this up a little), lights is 250 watt metal halide 9 hours a day and he had this same setup but 8 hours a day... Temp has been stable... I found my salinity is about .22 but I just added a couple gallons of water. Oh and I just use tap, which I have been told is ok in my town. All other snails and crabs are doing great and are very active. I want to look into ro/di but i am not there yet... maybe they were just old... I am just new at this so I am probably over analyzing everything. They were cool though... I was really worried about ammonia but it never spiked. At least not yet...
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:45 AM   #6
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i still use tap in houston,.......did you move any exhisting water at least to help with acclimation, my emerald crabs never live a long time
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:11 PM   #7
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yep 2/3 was existing water, 1/3 new when we did the move... been doing weekly 1/3 water changes for a month. This weekend was the first time I didn't do the weekly change because all the parameters have settled in nicely... I guess this could have just been old crabs who's time had come... the change must have affected them. They were very active when I first got them though- and they locked up in battle a lot. I thought the first might have been killed by the other...
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Old 10-20-2009, 01:55 PM   #8
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wow two years though not bad. i just acquired 2 emeralds about a week ago and so far they are great. are you going to get 2 more?
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:08 PM   #9
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Yeah we moved my gramma once and she died, the doc said she was just old.

Boy am I slow lol, I'm thinking to myself...What kind of fish is a gramma and why did you take it to a dotcor
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:23 PM   #10
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tested tap water for phos? or any heavy metals, but everything else is fine right?
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:58 PM   #11
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I just tested my tank water for phosphate and it looked fine (though those tests need much clearer differentiation because yellow with a little tiny green tinge looks like a vast spectrum on the scale)... but just for precautionary reasons I just added a little phosphate sponge... but I haven't had any problems with phosphates. Everything seems fine... not sure what else to check

I would like to get a couple more emeralds if I get the chance... I just want to make sure it isnt a problem with the tank first. I wanna make sure everything is settled in... then what i really want to do is get some fish I only have 2 little clowns in there right now...
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