ZEOvit

rihanssu · 08-24-2006, 03:19 PM

i ordered a reactor the other day and was just wondering if anyone in the club has used it or am i the club guinea pig? LMK i would like to hear your experiences (PLEASE! if you havn't used it or had a friend use it don't tell me how crappy it is)
-matt

carman34l · 08-24-2006, 03:25 PM

I think you are the club guinea pig. I know Devon was going to try if I remember correclty. I was going to try it without a reactor, just use their dosing regime. Keep us posted. Start taking load of pics of all the corals, and keep taking them so you can see any changes.

rihanssu · 08-24-2006, 03:29 PM

think i will, i'm gonna do the whole "new system startup" i worked some math and to do the 4 stage (ZEOlith ZEOfood ZEObak and ZEOstart) it'll cost me like 300$ to start up the first month but then i figure like 12-22$ per month plus the new ZEOliths so something like $100 a month not sure if its worth it but i guess we'll see!

deathmatch782 · 08-24-2006, 03:32 PM

ouch! thats a kick to the pocketbook

rihanssu · 08-24-2006, 03:35 PM

heheh i did after all get a second job to support this habbit =)

carman34l · 08-24-2006, 03:36 PM

I was reading a thread on RC a long time ago about it, and one of the things that was stress is to make sure you really have a huge skimmer. I think for Zeo to work to its potential you need absoulutly "clean" water. Otherwise the corals dont use it to its potential. and it is esentially a waste. The tanks that I have seen online that use Zeo, are stunning. But the people that take care of the tanks also are using top of the line everything else, and are extremely religous with their tanks as far as maintaining them go. Good Luck and keep us posted.

rihanssu · 08-24-2006, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carman34l

one of the things that was stress is to make sure you really have a huge skimmer.

WHOOHOO!!!

redwinger · 08-24-2006, 03:56 PM

IMO save your money and yourself the headaches.

David Grigor · 08-24-2006, 04:02 PM

I researched it pretty extensively and still monitor the forum. I was always skeptical becuase it does require using their products and your locked into keep buying there stuff. Maybe not a big deal on a smaller system, but ongoing costs are hard to swallow. I also tend to believe, the sucess is also related to how you have to be more in tune with your system which that in itself can make you sucessful with just about any philosophy/methodolgy.

Knowing you can be sucessful without it and it isn't the only way, I never got the gumption to try it.

I would for sure start on small ancillary system and make sure it's really going to work well and your up for it before investing and putting a show tank at risk.

epidemic · 08-24-2006, 04:06 PM

Well crap! If it is soluble in water and you had $50 laying around you could send it to Braun Intertech or some other analytical lab and have them run FTIR or HPLC-MS on it. Im sure it is an everyday item that is the main ingrediant.

David Grigor · 08-24-2006, 04:10 PM

The main ingredient is some sort of bacteria. Years ago, someone did some kind of standard scientific tests to try to identify/culture it and couldn't come up with anything conclusive. I don't remember the specifcs as this was like 3 years ago and much of the content was over my head to begin with.

epidemic · 08-24-2006, 04:14 PM

iS IT DRIED? iF SO THEN THE BACTERIA IS EITHER DEAD OR ENCAPSULATED. iF IT IS ENCAPSULATED YOU COULD CULTURE IT. USING BERGY'S MANUAL YOU COULD IDENTIFY IT AND i COULD PROBABLY ORDER IT OR FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD.

carman34l · 08-24-2006, 04:18 PM

Zeovit is a variety of Amino Acids and Natural Vitamins. In high quanity. As I understand it all it does is feed the zooanthellae and therfor making the colors in the coral brighter. But in order for it to really work you need to have a pristine system. So many argue that if you just take the time to maintain the system from the start, Zeovit is a waste. From what I have seen online Zeovite makes the Less Colorfull corals more pastel and brighter. I have never tried it out, but was mulling it over at one point. But for by next tank I am going to go with PolypLabs system. Which does not require a reactor and is about half the cost of Zeovit. I have talked to people who are using PolypLabs in their tanks and they have seen direct results in the product with pictures to back it up. But it all comes down to if you have the money to spend or not.

carman34l · 08-24-2006, 04:19 PM

Zeo products is about 10 differant solutions or powders you add either weekly or every other day or so.

David Grigor · 08-24-2006, 04:19 PM

No not dried. It's a liquid in a bottle.

The whole episode of not being able to identify or even find bacteria in the bottle made the skeptical more skeptical it got really ugle and led to the banning on talking about the whole zeovit on RC so they started there own forum.