Need quick questions answered!!!

Skipponator · 06-21-2005, 07:08 PM

1st one:
My Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp is carrying a bunch of eggs, how do they reproduce? The LFS has a cleaner in stock and wondering if I go get it, what are the chances that they can reproduce successfully? I know the babies if hatched would get eaten, but I want another cleaner anyways and I have a coupon, actually many of them (buy any item get any item +/less 50% off).

Leads me to my 2nd question:
Are Coral Buety fish reef safe? Assuming Yellow Wrasses are also? Will any of them not get along with my live stock already?
F. Perc, 6 Line Wrasse, Scooter Blenny, 6 chromis, Royal Gramma, 3 Stripe Damsel.

Also Tomato Clown, will they host in a RBTA and get along with a F. Perc, or should I scrap the idea of a Tomato?

I'd like to go get goods tonight so I need some quick answers pelase. Thanks,
-Skip

oyam123 · 06-21-2005, 07:57 PM

an extra cleaner is always a good thing...eggs are great fish food.

No to the tomato, if you have a perc...JMO.
CB angels are 95% reefsafe......yellow wrasse? the will eat inverts.

Irenicus · 06-21-2005, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipponator

1st one:
My Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp is carrying a bunch of eggs, how do they reproduce? The LFS has a cleaner in stock and wondering if I go get it, what are the chances that they can reproduce successfully? I know the babies if hatched would get eaten, but I want another cleaner anyways and I have a coupon, actually many of them (buy any item get any item +/less 50% off).
The spawn would probably perish if special accomodations are not made.
Leads me to my 2nd question:
Are Coral Buety fish reef safe? Assuming Yellow Wrasses are also? Will any of them not get along with my live stock already? Coral Beautys are hit and miss. Yellow's are (for the most part) and sometimes help with flatworms.
F. Perc, 6 Line Wrasse, Scooter Blenny, 6 chromis, Royal Gramma, 3 Stripe Damsel.

Also Tomato Clown, will they host in a RBTA and get along with a F. Perc, or should I scrap the idea of a Tomato? Maroons can be quite territorial, especially with an anemone involved. You would be risking it.

I'd like to go get goods tonight so I need some quick answers pelase. Thanks,
-Skip

Jeremiah · 06-21-2005, 08:04 PM

I have had Coral Beauty, Flame, and Rusty Angels in different reef tanks and i will not get another one. Mostly cause they all were fairly agressive to any new fish I put in the tank. I have heard that angels can nip on lps as well, but I never noticed that.

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Jeremiah · 06-21-2005, 08:06 PM

Oh, yeah, and I dont' know how the yellow wrasse and six line you have will get along? I thought you for some reason they didn't. But can't be sure, I am sure someone else will chime in.

clownfishcrazy · 06-21-2005, 08:08 PM

Cleaners are hermaphradites, you need 2 to produce fertilized eggs.

All angel could nip corals, so I wouldn't put an angel in a reef.
If you are talking about this wrasse, I would say it is reef safe and should get along with your tank mates, the 6line might fight a little bit. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=386

Eventually a Tomato will kill or injure your F. percs, and it is not garanteed to host in a RBTA.

spazz · 06-21-2005, 09:29 PM

the other thing about a coral beauty, is they pick at all the polops on the corals. i have a c/b in my tank and none of my sps polops come out in the daytime.

Twins Guy · 06-21-2005, 09:47 PM

if the yellow coris were beefy he might pose a risk to smaller shrimp. i had one dessimate a colony of peppermint shrimp. they also seem to like feather dusters.

any of the centropyge angels pose a nibbling risk to corals. they seem to have an appetite for clam mantle slime and brain (open and closed varieties) coral slime. i believe its more irritating to the coral and not necessarily damaging tissue-but that's my theory.

also-i generally recommend only one pair of clowns per tank...the different species just don't seem to get along so well. people will try multiple pairs/species in larger tanks and sometimes it works but in general i think they're #1) lucky, b) in denial, III) operating on borrowed time, or some combination of the above.

tg

Burchoid · 06-21-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by clownfishcrazy

Cleaners are hermaphradites, you need 2 to produce fertilized eggs.

All angel could nip corals, so I wouldn't put an angel in a reef.
If you are talking about this wrasse, I would say it is reef safe and should get along with your tank mates, the 6line might fight a little bit. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...cfm?pCatId=386

Eventually a Tomato will kill or injure your F. percs, and it is not garanteed to host in a RBTA.

I thought hermaphrodite meant it can reproduce by itself, without a partner... If they are indeed hermaphrodites they do not need a mate to reproduce? I thought I paid attention in biology class, but maybe I am off on this one

tico mike · 06-21-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Burchoid

I thought I paid attention in biology class,

Not close enough. It means they can change sexes, still take two to tango. ;-) Are you thinking asexual?

redwinger · 06-21-2005, 10:33 PM

No on the tomatoes for sure, if you have tomatoes they should be the only clowns in the tank unless it is a rather large system as in over 180 gallons. They are mean mean mean, smaller fish alone will have a hard time surving with them around. One of my tomatoes likes to beat the crap out of a chromis every now and again.

Cleaners do need two to repoduce. As they are hermaphodites. Both of my cleaners are carrying eggs as we speak, as far as the eggs developing it would be possible if you could harvest the eggs and cultivate them in a seperate system where they are free from predation and powerheads etc.

I have no idea or experience with the wrasse you mentioned or the coral beauty.

Frogbone · 06-21-2005, 10:50 PM

I hate to report contrary to what most people are saying here.

- I have a Coral Beauty and she's just fine in the Reef. There is no nipping going on.
- I also have a Pygmy Angel ... same thing, no problems at all.

- I have a Tomato Clown which hosts in a GCA and he shares one side of my 135 with 3 (yes, THREE) percs. The tomato and the percs are getting along just fine, they almost seem like they are one happy family.
I remember adding two smaller percs to the tank where the Tomato has been since day one. It looked like the Tomato looked after the percs right from the start and the percs didn't start hosting until the Tomato did so in the GCA. He showed the others how it's done

I really don't think that it is just luck

Skipponator · 06-21-2005, 10:51 PM

I swear I posted earlier, hmm, well decided against the mentioned fish. Thanks for all the input, I'm having a hard time getting my hands on another F. Perc since my LFS pretty much sux and I live far away from any decently stocked LFS.

On the note of shrimp, can you have multiple types of shrimp in a system? Any type you don't want to mix?

Jeremiah · 06-21-2005, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Burchoid

I thought hermaphrodite meant it can reproduce by itself, without a partner... If they are indeed hermaphrodites they do not need a mate to reproduce? I thought I paid attention in biology class, but maybe I am off on this one

"an animal or plant having both male and female reproductive organs"

Websters:
http://webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...odite&x=26&y=7

But just because they have both male and female reproductive organs doesn't mean it can reproduce by itself. I believe Mike is correct and that would be something that is asexual if it can reproduce on it's own. At least that's what I have gathered from the Animal Planet channel.

Besides, who's going to argue with Devon when it comes to hermaphrodites

Fahz · 06-21-2005, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremiah

Oh, yeah, and I dont' know how the yellow wrasse and six line you have will get along? I thought you for some reason they didn't. But can't be sure, I am sure someone else will chime in.

The Sixline will most likely kill the Yellow Wrasse in a day or two.

Fahz