I think my RBTA split!

Skipponator · 07-05-2005, 06:14 PM

Come home to find the RBTA moved slightly, then to the right of the pics it looks like a small RBTA with about 12 tentacles hanging upside down under a piece of LR, totally looks seperated from the original, does it appear to be a clone? I am kinda wanting to move the rock to see the underside, but I don't want to disturb it either. If this is a clone, it has just made my day!

redwinger · 07-05-2005, 06:29 PM

Looks like a split to me.

the_colonel · 07-05-2005, 06:44 PM

Congrats! That is a Split!

Loverotties · 07-05-2005, 07:06 PM

Yeppers!pass out the Cigars!

king kong · 07-05-2005, 09:34 PM

I have a red and green..getting WAY TO BIG! wish mine would split

the green must be 12" across and the red 9"

i also have a lta do the ever split becouse its way way to big!

Skipponator · 07-05-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by king kong

I have a red and green..getting WAY TO BIG! wish mine would split

the green must be 12" across and the red 9"

i also have a lta do the ever split becouse its way way to big!

My green LTA is huge, wish that would split. I don't think my RBTA is finished splitting yet, kinda looks like there could be two clones, but tough to tell as I have never seen a split before.

Clownnut · 07-05-2005, 10:53 PM

i never seen or heard of a LTA split before... i got one before 10+" but never split whatsoever...by the way anyone here got any idea how to get the BTA's tip back to bubble shape???

-Ace- · 07-05-2005, 11:19 PM

any idea how to get the BTA's tip back to bubble shape???
There are opinions on possibly what you can do to help, but really, nobody is exactly sure. Mine had small bubble tip's when I purchased it, then as it grew, the tips/arms were long and somewhat thin in comparison to the "bubble look". Now, after about a year and a half, it's starting to get that "bubble" look to its tentacles. . .I don't know. One thing I would like to have cleared up- to my knowledge, when a BTA splits, it's a sign that the BTA has been stressed, or feels a need to reproduce as to continue it's existance. I have read tips on inducing splitting, like large water changes, etc. and such. So, if a BTA is happy, and healthy, why would it split? It was ineterseting to read how those with a BTA(not RBTA) say that they don't split. I have had mine between 1.5-2 years w/o a split. Any proven writings on that?

Skipponator · 07-05-2005, 11:40 PM

I didn't know it was going to split, last week it showed signs, but nothing transpired, last night I did a water change and I come home today and there it is. I would think something would reproduce because it's doing well? If an LTA doesn't split, how do they reproduce then? As far as the bubble look, today it had some bubbles, unlike since I got it, it had minor ones. The Anemone for the most part seems healthy, it eats well, and has good strong lighting and apparently likes where it is placed in the tank. However when I got it, it had quite the traumatic experience being parted from some LR, but that was atleast 3 weeks ago.

Clownnut · 07-05-2005, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipponator

I would think something would reproduce because it's doing well? If an LTA doesn't split, how do they reproduce then?

here's my exp
i will agreed with Ace, split is continue it's existance. if thing do well they will spawn not split.
anemones are more like shroom and rics. they will spawn to reproduce.

trodder · 07-06-2005, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ace-

any idea how to get the BTA's tip back to bubble shape???
There are opinions on possibly what you can do to help, but really, nobody is exactly sure. Mine had small bubble tip's when I purchased it, then as it grew, the tips/arms were long and somewhat thin in comparison to the "bubble look". Now, after about a year and a half, it's starting to get that "bubble" look to its tentacles. . .I don't know. One thing I would like to have cleared up- to my knowledge, when a BTA splits, it's a sign that the BTA has been stressed, or feels a need to reproduce as to continue it's existance. I have read tips on inducing splitting, like large water changes, etc. and such. So, if a BTA is happy, and healthy, why would it split? It was ineterseting to read how those with a BTA(not RBTA) say that they don't split. I have had mine between 1.5-2 years w/o a split. Any proven writings on that?

I can not give you any wrtitings on a BTA splitting except my own... I have a green BTA that has split 2 or three times now. I always wondered for the longest time if it would ever split... Then finally after two years it finally did. Am RBTA has the same basic genetic make-up of any BTA... after all they are all Quadricolour Anenomes. Patience is the key for any BTA to split. Some may split because of strees... most will most likely never spawn successfully in the home aquarium... or at least I have never heard of it happening. Although a little stress can cause a BTA to split that does not mean a BTA splits only due to stress. The fact that there is a lot of unknowns about them splitting is something to way heavily... for instance most of us only get a BTA to split when something happens... is that because we always have something happening??? Maybe frequent water changes?? Swings in PH??? Overdosed something??? Kids throwing pennnies in the tank??? (Sorry Jerry couldn't resist) anyway is it all a coinisidence? If you look at Rich for instance... he has had more splits out of his RBTAs then you can shake a stick at, yet I am willing to bet the farm on the fact that his husbandry practices are better than just about anybody in TCMAS.... What causes his splits??? IT has been suspected that his RBTAs watch Rich surf the net too much and that is what is causing them to reproduce, but in all seriousness if it is not that what is it??? That is all we can throw at Rich to tease him about the constant splits because most of us know he keeps his tanks nice and steady.... I wish I could answer all your questions on why your BTA won't split but in time I'm sure it will... I guess what I am really trying to say is for all you BTA/RBTA owners is if you want your anenome to split... it will just give it time, it will split when it is ready. If you get a little ansy about it then go a couple months without a water change and then do a large water change and see if that induces it. Just know that if you enduced it to change you may not know that you did for another month... it will take the time it needs to prepare before it will try to split. I hope this helps....

Skipponator · 07-06-2005, 12:33 AM

Ofcourse it eats well, that may induce it, I feed it directly atleast every other day, both of them.

JnS · 07-06-2005, 01:09 AM

congrats

redwinger · 07-06-2005, 01:27 AM

I didn't feed my RBTA for 3 weeks and it split. I tried the feed the crap out of it and do large water changes and that didn't work. I think they are more prone to split whenever the heck they want. Doesn't seem like there is a sure fire way to make them split.

David Grigor · 07-06-2005, 01:34 PM

Have you confirmed yet that it is actually seperate. I have had before that when it get burried deep into a rock that it's just a few tentacle popping out of a crevice but all still the same foot. Can you actually see a mouth on the smaller portion ? Being located so close to the original and in a crevice in the pic can't tell for sure.

Just my own personal observation ( nothing sceintific ) and just a guess as early stated I don't know if anyone has been able to explain scientifically: It may have to do with the amount of light ( and or manually feeding it ) and/or the water quality ( nutrient level ), or a combination of all three.

For example: Mine have always maintained fat bubble tips under flourescent lighting and I never directly feed it. Perhaps the bubble tips allow more surface area for zooxanthellae when under less lighting. Clones that have been moved to MH lighting seem to loose the tips. Perhaps because it is getting enought sugar from abundant the zooxanthellae from the increase lighting that it doesn't need to have bubble tip. Also same may be true it you feed the anemone and it getting plenty of food then may not need bubble tips. Could also be related to the water quality that would make zooanthellae more abundant. More nutrients available more zoonathellae and less need for the bubble tips. Mine has for the most part kept a lighter pink color ( just a guess but perhaps because it contains less zooanthellae) . Those that are darker ( or orange ) may be genetics but also could be due to the water quality creating a condition where the zoonathellae are thriving thus no bubbles.