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Old 03-11-2006, 05:05 PM   #1
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Frag placement


is there things i should not put close to other things IE xena by zoos frogspawn by xena ect ect ect
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:10 PM   #2
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I tend to separate softies with softies, LPS with LPS, and SPS with SPS. In general, any softy or LPS will kick SPS butt.
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Old 03-11-2006, 05:48 PM   #3
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ok ok ok so i guess this is the time for me to feel like a complete dumb A## define sps vs lps vs softies
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:27 PM   #4
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softy--xenia, colt, kenya, mushroom, zoas, et c.

LPS--frogspawn, hammer, plate, brain coral, etc.

SPS--acro, monti, porites, etc.

Make some sense without going into more detail? Granted, I basically just gave examples of the corals....and didn't do much explaining.
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:30 PM   #5
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that explanation works for me so is it ok if i have a softie next to a LPS and also some zoos
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:49 PM   #6
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depends. Give the frogspawn room, as they can sting other corals.
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Old 03-11-2006, 11:41 PM   #7
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SPS = small polyped scleractinian coral (small polyped stony corals)

LPS = large polyped scleractinian

Reefkeepers are often concerned about chemical warfare between corals (especially toxins from soft corals harming SPS corals), and I'm sure there is reason to think about such things. However, personally, I have always kept all sorts of corals (SPS, LPS, soft corals, gorgonians, zooanthids) in the same system, and I have not seen indications that there were any problems with this (though the relative abundances of the different corals might make a difference I suppose?...e.g. maybe it would be a bigger deal having leather corals in with SPS corals if the tank was 90% filled with leather corals rather than 10% leathers???).

I have kept LARGE amounts of Xenia in SPS tanks and have not seen any indication that the Xenia was inhibiting the SPS corals. In fact, I have seen strong indications that a large amount of Xenia can reduce problem algae growth. Also, I have not normally observed any problems from contact between Xenia and other corals, as long as the Xenia is not shading or blocking water flow from the other coral, and as long as the Xenia is not attached to the other coral. I currently have some Xenia brushing up against part of an Acropora colony – I do need to remove or trim the Xenia, but honestly, the Acropora does not seem to care.

In general though, try very hard to not allow any coral or anemone or zooanthid to touch any other coral that you care a lot about. Some can touch each other without doing any harm, but unless you know otherwise, assume that one or the other will likely be harmed by contact. The damage might be from chemical warfare, but often the damage will be from stinging.

Some corals, especially some of the LPS corals, can put out amazingly long sweeper tentacles that can sting and kill their neighbors. Galaxea and maze corals are examples that have really really long sweepers sometimes (they seem to be extended in response to neighbors that they don't like that they want to clear out of the way).

Also, some LPS corals really expand their tissues out far, even if they are not particlularly trying to be aggressive. Frogspawns, hammer, and torch corals are examples of this. These corals also grow very fast, and a small colony will occupy a huge amount of tank space before you know it. So, both because of the tremendous reach of their tentacles, and because of their fast grwoth, you need to plan and allow plenty of space around such corals.

Among SPS corals (actually, among all corals), there are hierarchies of aggression. For example, I have found that Pocillopora damicornis (which also does the sweeper tentacle thing, but on a smaller scale) will kill Montipora digitata and birdsnest corals if they grow within range of its sweepers. Certain Acropora species seem to win out over others when they come in contact. Etc.

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Old 03-11-2006, 11:48 PM   #8
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Another thing to consider though is the potential of a coral to spread. For example, don't let zooanthids or mushrooms or green star polyps or encrusting gorgonians loose on a patch of rocks in your tank where you intend to grow a patch of SPS corals. They will be nearly impossible to control among the SPS corals, and they will be continually tending to overgrow the SPS corals. These fast spreaders can be grown in SPS tanks, but keep them isolated from your main reef structures where you intend to have SPS corals.

Many people consider Xenia to be equally troublesome if it gets loose in and SPS tank, but I have usually found it possible to peel it off the rocks and control it that way.

Regarding Xenia: I am a huge fan of Xenia. It seems to me that there can hardly be anything cooler than a coral that looks like an animated, pulsing bouquet of flowers. To me, Xenia is one of the great joys of reefkeeping. However, it grows very fast, and can be a pain to keep up with, so I like to get it established on a wall of the tank where it can spread and not bother anything, and where it is particularly easy to remove when there is too much of it. Isolated rock "outcroppings" surrounded by sand are other nice places for things like Xenia, zooanthids, star polyps, etc.

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Old 03-12-2006, 10:05 AM   #9
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that xenia I gave you is the fast growing stuff that is going around the club. try to keep it away from anything you like. like capman said try to start it out on the back glass, looks good and easy to take care of.
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