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Old 11-12-2006, 05:06 PM   #1
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Battery Backup Pictorial...


With all of the money we have invested in critters I decided it was time to buy some insurance in the form of a battery backup system. I have been running a Penn-Plax Silent Air B11 which will aerate the tank for up to 72 hours on a single pair of D-cells. But I wanted something more flexible...

Here is a good article on battery backup systems...
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-05/gh/index.php

Generators offer long term power but, aside from very expensive permanent installations they are not uninteruptable in the sense that someone must turn them on. So I decided on a system with a power inverter, built-in battery charger, and automatic switching when ac power is interupted paired with a deep-cycle marine battery.

The Tripp-Lite APS612 and APS750 seem to be the most popular units used among aquarium keepers. But there is a new unit the APS700HF http://tripplite.com/products/produc...productID=3298 which offers everything I need in a compact design. It can supply up to 700W of continuous power. Since i only plan to run a few powerheads with this system it will have more than enough power-and in a pinch could run my entire system including heater (less the lighting) for a shorter duration.

The build is really not very difficult. Here are the parts you would need:
-APS700HF Power Inverter/Charger ~$160
-DieHard Marine Deep Cycle Battery or any comparable battery tax ~$70
-2x 4 gauge battery cables ~24-30" wire length ~$10
-x # feet of 8 gauge ground wire (long enough to reach from inverter to water pipe) ~$5
-grounding clamp ~$2-3
-marine battery box ~$10
total ~$275 after taxes



Tools: something to cut and strip wire, allen wrenches for securing wiring in inverter terminals, straight-edge screwdriver

The inverter has a power-in cord, and power-out, as well as positive and negative terminals to connect to the battery. There is also a ground terminal on the inverter housing.



After preparing and labeling the battery cables as positive and negative they were connected to the inverter/charger.



The ground wire was secured to the inverter/charger and the other end clamped to the nearest water pipe.



Battery cables were attached to the appropriate battery terminals, the marine battery box was closed up, and the inverter/charger was secured to the battery box.



After the unit was situated next to my tank a maxijet 900 was plugged into the power-out cord and the inverter/charger was finally plugged in. When ac power is connected the powerhead is run off of ac, in the event of an outage the inverter uses the battery's 12V DC to run the pump. I later unplugged the inverter/charger and am currently testing the system to see how long it will run the maxijet. There is a low battery alarm built into inverter to protect the battery from being irreversibly discharged. The maxijet is running perfectly-quiet-in spite of the "modified sine wave" the inverter produces. I anticipate >24 hours of run-time with the single maxijet. I will try to come up with the calculations. Eventually this will run Tunze nanostreams. Roger Vitko of Tunze USA has stated that Tunze pumps run just fine off of the modified sine wave and since the electronic versions are DC they are well suited to use on a modified sine wave power supply (since the Tunze transformer knocks it down to DC anyways).



If this saves a loved critters life-awesome-if not it offers some piece of mind. Let me know if you have any questions. Thought this might be a good little instructive piece.

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Old 11-12-2006, 05:14 PM   #2
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This is very helpful. Thanks!

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Old 11-12-2006, 06:18 PM   #3
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Nice work...thanx for the info.
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:18 PM   #4
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perfect affordable solution : )

i bet it last more than 24 hours with one MJ.
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:54 PM   #5
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So this more affordable model is uninterruptable so you don't have to be around to turn it on correct ? If so, not only being half the price but also more compact makes this a no brainer for just about everyone IMO.

I have the aps512 purchase many years ago and yes it has paid for itself already with the bad storm last fall and the peace of mind of not only storms but really from anything that could trip the circuit ( which has happened on occasion ).

I use 2 deep cells and can run a OR2500 return pump ( 28w ) for a little more than 48hours.
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Old 11-12-2006, 07:30 PM   #6
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So this more affordable model is uninterruptable so you don't have to be around to turn it on correct ? If so, not only being half the price but also more compact makes this a no brainer for just about everyone IMO.
correct! the smallest "regular" model they make now (like the APS512 you have, or 612) is the APS750. it can handle 750W continuous or double that (1500W) for an "extended period." the APS700HF only handles 700W continuous. the big difference besides size is that mine, the APS700HF, will only handle 120% (840W) for 5 seconds or 200% (1400W) for 2 seconds. these "Peak Surge" or "OverPower" features which are better on the aps750 are really worthless for aquarium applications.

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Old 11-28-2006, 04:17 PM   #7
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With this mornings power outage. Something funny happened with my APS512. All the LEDS were flashing and no power to the pump. Now the UPS is totally dead. No leds, not drawing any power anything. I opened up and inspected and don't see any visable burned spots on the board. I'm assuming that it probably costs more to repair than just buying the new model.

I did a google and couldn't really find any source to purchase. Do you mind posting or PM me where you got yours from ?
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Old 11-28-2006, 05:58 PM   #8
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I'm assuming that it probably costs more to repair than just buying the new model.
Not when you have a source in your own club
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:41 PM   #9
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the only thing you might consider doing is to use a sealed gel cell deep cycle battery. it wont release hydergen gas into your house when under load or being charged back up. standard deep cycle batteries release hydrgen into the air which can explode if near a spark. its a 50% chance you have either a gas furnace or gas water heater in it and your tank is near the laundry room. just something to think about. its a 1 in a million chance you would ever have a problem but its just something to think about.

thanks for this info TG i was just talking to thepollock about this exact thing. i didnt know it was this easy to get one with the charger already built in. this is a super nice design and will work great for what we need them for. i might get 2 of them. 1 for the main pump and the other for 4 maxi jets. our power dont go out for long so if this would run my tank for 4 hrs then i would be fine.
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Spazz, you are correct. The standard deep cycle or VRLA batteries do release Hydrogen, however if you only have a few of them you will never notice and it won't be an issue.
I see battery banks of 40 to 240 with batteries 3 to 4 times the size and the places they are in don't blow up. However with installations that size most (not all) have a monitoring system for this scenario.

Either way, with our houshold size setups there really isn't anything to worry about.
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i coppied this(below) from there spec sheet. this is made for gel cell battries. that is a ery improtant thing to consider. this is designed perfectly for this application. awesome find TG. thanks


"Advanced 20 amp, 3-stage battery charger and selector switch for gel or wet cell batteries"
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Spazz, you are correct. The standard deep cycle or VRLA batteries do release Hydrogen, however if you only have a few of them you will never notice and it won't be an issue.
I see battery banks of 40 to 240 with batteries 3 to 4 times the size and the places they are in don't blow up. However with installations that size most (not all) have a monitoring system for this scenario.

Either way, with our houshold size setups there really isn't anything to worry about.
thanks frogbone. i didnt know if this would be a problem or not. just thought i would mention it just incase. sounds like you deal with these all the time so i will trust your judgment. i have had battries blow up on me in trucks before. so it concerned me.
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Thanks for the info, was just thinking about getting a backup system for the tank. We had a brief power outage today.

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i coppied this(below) from there spec sheet. this is made for gel cell battries. that is a ery improtant thing to consider. this is designed perfectly for this application. awesome find TG. thanks


"Advanced 20 amp, 3-stage battery charger and selector switch for gel or wet cell batteries"
OR wet cell batteries...so i'm cool with my deep-cycle marine battery (i have been working under the assumption and understanding that it is a "wet cell")?

i'm glad this thread didn't die, but sad it took another power outage to dredge it up...i actually found mine on ebay...let me search for the seller...although i think mine may be "gray market" with primarily spanish on the packaging...and it shipped from puerto rico the same guy had a few dozen for sale...i received it in 3-4 days though-perfect condition and the instructions have an english section

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ebay seller was...usabestpricescom

but they don't have any for sale right now-nowhere else on ebay either
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