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Old 12-28-2004, 02:39 PM   #1
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Hi,

Does macro algae in a refugium serve a better purpose when it is kept full in a refugium or harvested and thinned out more often. I always thought that the point was to remove the macro algae to remove the excess nutrients. My husband thinks that I remove too much.

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Old 12-28-2004, 03:29 PM   #2
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Pam,

I think you're correct. Look at the following excerpt:

Macroalgae play an important role in closed marine systems. They utilize nutrients, such as nitrate and phosphate, which are found in abundance in most aquariums. As they grow, they take up required nutrients from the water column.

The use of macroalgae in marine aquariums is a matter of personal preference, but can provide the hobbyist with an affordable, natural means of exporting excess nutrients from the aquarium. Many hobbyists grow and harvest “purposeful” macroalgae, such as Chaetomorpha, Gracilaria, Halimeda, and Caulerpa somewhere in their systems in order to assist in the control and export of excess nutrients. By carefully cultivating and harvesting the macroalgae on a regular basis, you are literally removing excess nutrients from the aquarium. The macroalgae may be grown either in a separate section of a sump, algal turf scrubber, or even a refugium, depending upon the hobbyist’s preferences.

The degree of nutrient export provided by macroalgae is largely dependent upon the growth rate, density, and quantity of the macroalgae harvested. Under optimal conditions, some species of macroalgae can achieve tremendous growth rates, providing the hobbyist with a wonderful means to export nutrients from his or her system.
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Old 12-28-2004, 04:18 PM   #3
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Hello Pam:

If you are using Caluerpa, you will want to keep on top of thinning it out. From what I understand, the reason Caluerpa has a reputation for going sexual is because it has a short life cycle; it lives, and dies fast. Caulerpa tends to go sexual when it is in its last stage of life; sort of like how lawn grass can "go to seed" if it isn't cut in a long time. By constantly thinning it back, you can make the Caluerpa "think" that it is always in it's growth phase.

The other types of macro tend not to have that problem, so I would probably thin out the others types when growth "shades" whatever is underneath it.

Anyone else, feel free to add to, or correct what I've said. See you all tonight!

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Old 12-29-2004, 07:38 AM   #4
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I've never had my grape calurpa go sexual in my refugium because of two things; trimming it back and keeping it on a reverse light schedule. The lights on the refugium are on overnight and shut off in the morning.
dme330i is exactly right in explaining how trimming back the calurpa "exports" nutrients out of your system.

As long as you've got some calurpa in your refugium it'll grow back.

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Old 12-29-2004, 09:09 AM   #5
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Caulerpa tends to go sexual when it is in its last stage of life;
Michael, are you suggesting that we take out the "older" caulerpa and leave the newer? How do you tell, and wouldn't this be tough to actually implement since it is all clumped together? I just rip off half the clump and toss it. Let it grow back to that size and then rip off half again and dump. Wrong?
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Old 12-29-2004, 09:42 AM   #6
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Sorry for the Confusion Chris; yes you would toss ( or give away ) some of the Caulerpa on a regular basis. The important part is that you are thinning back on a regular basis.

Could you imagine the time it would take to tag and label each strand so you could tell the old from the new...LOL

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Old 12-29-2004, 10:31 AM   #7
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I am of the opinion that the stuff grows much faster if you prune it back, it seems to thrive because of the harvesting pressure. Of course it requires nutrients to grow so that means less in the water so I say prune away.


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Old 12-29-2004, 11:07 AM   #8
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Could you imagine the time it would take to tag and label each strand so you could tell the old from the new...LOL
And if you are anal enough to actually UNTANGLE and LABEL each strand correctly, there's a job at any of the big communication giants sorting and labeling 40 year old cable and fiber runs....

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