FS/FT Sea Swirl - Page 2

washowi · 06-23-2005, 11:33 AM

I am old and slow. what's BB? I have definitely pirated this link. A thousand pardons.

And Mel, that's what I want to do!.

Todd

goodfortune · 06-23-2005, 12:32 PM

Todd:

BB = Barebottom; that's when you run your tank without a sandbed or any type of substrate. One of the advantages of running a barebottom tank is that there is no sandbed to trap detritus or act as a sink for nutrients. A lot of people find that their systems will crash within several years if they have a sandbed, because the sandbed is acting as a sink or a trap for detritus and nutrients.

Also, because there is no sandbed, you can run your flow much higher, which will make your acros happier, and sweep (most) of the detritus out of your system before it has a chance to settle.

Just my 2 cents; there are alot of pros and cons to running a Deep Sand Bed, a Shallow Sandbed, or a Barebottom System, and you will find a lot of heated debate about each type of system on the boards. To sum it up, I'm still learning every day

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washowi · 06-23-2005, 02:53 PM

Gracias Amigo!!

Then the answer is Nope, I have a sand bed. For me, the ocean has sand at the bottom. I want the ocean in my living room or as close to it as I can. I have have sifter stars, gobies that munch sand, and a butt load of hermits and other invertabrate that take care of the sand for me.

I would never be happy with a BB.

Todd

twd4 · 06-23-2005, 03:44 PM

This hobby is a learning experience. Never say never or always

twd4 · 06-23-2005, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by washowi

Gracias Amigo!!

I have have sifter stars, gobies that munch sand, and a butt load of hermits and other invertabrate that take care of the sand for me.

Todd

The may help process some solid waste but they do not remove nutrients from the water and they remove very little detritus.

washowi · 06-23-2005, 03:58 PM

Yes but my big ass skimmer removes nutrients pretty good!!

twd4 · 06-23-2005, 04:01 PM

some nutrients

What kinda big ass skimmer do you have?

twd4 · 06-23-2005, 04:05 PM

ps....im interested in the 3/4" SS. Lemme know how old and how much.

nos68 · 06-23-2005, 04:18 PM

No problem for the other posts. Personally, if I had a reef tank, I'd do the Tunze - kind of pricey though. Not that SSs are cheap, but like mine, you can usually find one used and in good condition. :-)

The SS is spoken for though. Thanks for the interest. Back to Tunze-talk. :-) Here, let me start it back up - how do people keep from having a constant sand storm? I saw the comment about BB tanks, but like in the movie, it had a sand bed. Also, love that light...alas, it's expensive too...

-Chris

Melissa · 06-23-2005, 07:12 PM

Tunze actually just became a sponsor for TRT, so there is a forum where you can go and ask Roger, the Tunze rep, questions. He's very quick about answering. I'd love to try out a wave box, but I'm not sure if it would work with my current (no pun intended) stream.

Todd - one word of advice - spend the $35 extra for the magnet mount. It's so much easier to use than the mounting brackets that come with it. That is, unless you had planned to get the stream rock that holds the entire contraption.

washowi · 06-23-2005, 07:42 PM

Hi Mel , I was looking at the magnet mount on Andy's site. I want them for my maxi-jets. Wonder if they would work?

Todd

Melissa · 06-23-2005, 08:33 PM

Hmm...I bet you could probably make it work with the maxi-jet. Might be cheaper to cement one of the maxijets to a magnet cleaner and see how that does. Those ones for the tunzes are really friggin strong. It's almost impossible to pry them apart.

nos68 · 06-23-2005, 08:42 PM

Yep, I did something just like that with a MJ but I used tie wraps thingies so I could remove it (wasn't sure how well it would work at the time). It stayed put. :-) I thought with two of them in between the magnet, the magnet wouldn't attract, but it worked. It didn't look super-sexy though.

washowi · 06-23-2005, 11:20 PM

Mel

I like the magnet cleaner idea!! Get a couple cheapies and the suction cup days and sand snowstorms could be over!!

nos68 · 06-24-2005, 04:34 PM

OK, now the catch is (there always is one, isn't there) the magnets need to be strong as they are supporting the powerhead. I just did two tie wraps horizontally and it worked for me. I would say, once you are happy, then go with the glue / epoxy as it would hold even better.

Good luck.