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03-23-2006, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Stone Mountain
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Originally Posted by JT
These sound like your typical Indo & Fiji tranship boxes. Not to dis on the deal but transhipping in general is bad for the hobby.
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I'd like to know if these were all wild caught or aquacultured...
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03-23-2006, 07:45 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 871
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agree
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03-23-2006, 07:46 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Canton, GA
Posts: 210
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Chris:
Transhipping in a Nutshell:
Bulk boxes are put together at the collector, usually a box is comprised with corals leftover after importers order off of standard, itemized, stocklists.
Collector/Exporter ships boxes to LAX where they are not unpacked and acclimated into a holding system. Bags are only reox'd and boxes sealed back up by the importer and then shipped off to their destination (retailer).
99% of transhipped boxes are wild caught with only certain aquacultured SPS, typically only Bali frags, ever offered in a box lot special. Because of the higher wholesale price, you will probably never see one of Walt Smith's famous aquacultured frags in a "Fiji tranship" box but you will get wild harvested SPS colonies.
Corals aren't the only items transhipped, fish are big transhippers as well, and the lower cost of transhipped corals is very attractive to small retail shops and service companies.
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03-23-2006, 07:52 PM
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ARC Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Stone Mountain
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Originally Posted by JT
Corals aren't the only items transhipped, fish are big transhippers as well, and the lower cost of transhipped corals is very attractive to small retail shops and service companies.
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The transhipping part doesn't bother me. Buying wild corals when we've got good alternatives does.
I'm going to bow out and let you guys do your thing. But I do urge all of you to consider the impact of wild caught corals. Fish grow back fast; corals are a lot slower.
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03-23-2006, 07:59 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Canton, GA
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Originally Posted by mojo
The transhipping part doesn't bother me.
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Transhipping should bother everyone as this is how the majority of unsuitable corals species, such as Goniopora & Dendronepthya, enter the hobby. Goniopora is frequently used as "filler" to pad boxes with especially by some of the smaller collectors who can only move their product quickly by transhipping it out at a cheap price.
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03-23-2006, 08:02 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Canton, GA
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Originally Posted by mojo
Buying wild corals when we've got good alternatives does.
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Sorry for the double post, I should have covered this earlier.
Unfortunately, there isn't a wide variety of aquacultured species presently available. Things like SPS, mushrooms, and softies are generally easy to propogate, but there are many LPS corals that are currently impractical to aquaculture.
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03-23-2006, 11:15 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lawrenceville
Posts: 573
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So after there ordered how soon will we get them in? Who do i pay? Im getting two but i sent ljuhl a PM with what to add me down for, bc i didnt know which is which... |
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03-23-2006, 11:30 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Duluth, GA
Posts: 390
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Todd, Chris (Mojo), and LT may be right about the tranship and wild caught corals. I am sorry that I'll have to backout of this group buy. If anybody still want to proceed with the group buy, you are more than welcome to pick it up from here for me.
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125G acrylic softies tank. 120G acrylic SPS's tank. 46G acrylic bowfront quarrantine tank.
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03-24-2006, 12:47 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 871
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as will I, with all the recent stories about bleaching reefs and having corals wild cought, it doesnt sit well with me. Sorry.
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03-24-2006, 12:55 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Sorry guys, I'm out as well.
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03-24-2006, 03:53 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canton
Posts: 424
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Ditto
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03-25-2006, 04:53 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: atlanta
Posts: 45
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I will be interested...What do I need to do, and what are we getting  ? |
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03-25-2006, 05:30 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: atlanta
Posts: 45
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oops, nevermind...after reading throught the entire thread. It wouldnst seem right...disregard my previous post.  . |
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