At what speed do you surf?

[jlovell]

Originally Posted by Kalkbreath

I am interested in learning at what connection speed most hobbyists hook up to the Internet? I am launching a site soon and it will be a rich media visit , with video and Flash animation.
The problem is there is such a gap between dial up and even a slow DSL connection, that designing a site for both the slow visitor and the fast one is becoming a dilemma the question is :
What speed is typical?
4KB/s.......... 35KB/s ....or 100KB/s
Thanks jeff

I get 1500bps down and 384bps up at home. OC3 speeds at work.

Unfortunately, your problem is worse than just speed. You also have problems with technology. Using high bandwidth hog technologies & graphics can easily turn a fast link into the equivalent of a dialup one. I would HIGHLY recommend that you steer away from Flash, Heavy Animation, and heavy scripting, especially with menus and core site functionality. I have most of that turned off to save bandwidth as well as aggravation. Due to the fact that many sites have "undocumented connections" to porn/spam behind the scenes, I have javascript severely limited as well. (You would not believe how many times I get a notice on Firefox that some site tried to install software on my machine and was "denied" by firefox).

If you really want the flash, animations, and large graphic files, that's fine, but at least make the site functional and usable without having to have them. Have the video but make it something the user has to click on to see. Simply put, if I can't see a site because it doesn't display or work right because of my setup I go elsewhere. Web Statistics show that if it takes longer than 15 seconds to show, most users click out and go elsewhere.

Hopefully, this has been helpful.

Jay

[washowi]

2004-12-06 16:05:49 EST: 1137 / 301 Your download speed : 1165070 bps, or 1137 kbps. A 142.2 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 308404 bps, or 301 kbps.

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Ok New data that does not agree with old report. Everytime it is something different

[Harleyguy]

I hate you guys..... I'm on crappy dial-up 45.2 Kbps... I can't get DSl (not offered by my phone company), can't get cable (No cable), I can't even get high speed dial-up (no local numbers). My only option is Satellite and that's only hast downloads (uploads are the same as dial-up) and it's really expensive.

[Phantom Phish]

OK, I must be an idiot, because I couldn't figure out how to paste my test results here on TRT.

But it shows for me at home, on Bellsouth DSL...
Download speed 1146 kbps
Upload speed 209 kpbs

[lkung]

IMHO and to mirror what Melissa and Jay have said, I would recommend building the site to the lowest common denominator (within reason), especially if this is a commercial site. You don't want to lose any sales because the the customer got sick of waiting or had some functionality (like java, java script, or active x) turned off. MindSpring/Earthlink's sign up pages were my responsibility from 1998ish-2003, and we always kept away from Flash and heavy client-side scripting. AOL, Amazon, and eBay's sites are Flash-free because they lack the capability. Just my 2 cents.

What speed is typical?

According to a report a few months ago, the percentage of dial-up users vs. broadband users in the US is now roughly 50/50. However, I'm not sure what the breakdown would be for reefers specifically .

HTH,
-leon.

[rbmead]

Speed test @ ec

2306/309 kbps

[Kalkbreath]

Im going to launch the site soon and maybe that will be the best way to judge. 100 kb/s seems to work fine in the Macromedia simulator. The site will load as a basic page then the visitor can enter the video showcase or click on a narration if they like to...... Click on this link and tell me if this loads to slowly http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...video/gallery/.

[jlovell]

Here's mine from DSL Reports. This is too fun not to do again. Used to be better than this though,

Jay

2004-12-07 01:25:26 EST: 916 / 203 Your download speed : 938158 bps, or 916 kbps. A 114.5 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 208793 bps, or 203 kbps.

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[Phantom Phish]

Originally Posted by Kalkbreath

Im going to launch the site soon and maybe that will be the best way to judge. 100 kb/s seems to work fine in the Macromedia simulator. The site will load as a basic page then the visitor can enter the video showcase or click on a narration if they like to...... Click on this link and tell me if this loads to slowly http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...ideo/gallery/.

Took me about 5 seconds to load (1146 kbps DSL), so no, I don't think that's too slow. But if I was on dial up, might be a different story.

[CapBay]

Thanks .....anyone else click that link ?
My site will be similar. With video clips of current livestock vatts and a bit of narration .
Can the average hobbyist surf that fast?

[jimbeau]

Looks good to me.

Jim

[bamann345]

Maybe from the homepage, have a link for flash and Macromedia, and one that is just plain HTML....

A person on dial up, will not like Flash and macromedia. I havent been on a dial up in around 10 years, so I really dont know, just what I hear. I love the idea of videos of new livestock!

[johnqx4]

>johnqx4: 8.5Mb/s?! Wow. Is that at work or home?

-leon.

Sorry, that was a little unfair I run a DR data center. We have 10 mb pipe used for several different things. I don't always have it all. but when i do, It screams ALthough at worst, it is pretty awsome as I have atleast a t1.

At home I have ifidl (bell south fibre at the street). goes sbout 400 kbs (download). But in all honesty, they seem about the same for surfing.

Before this I had cable modem for 4 years. I liked it just as well.

johnny

[bluegrasssweety]

2004-12-13 08:32:10 EST: 2672 / 236 Your download speed : 2736359 bps, or 2672 kbps. A 334 KB/sec transfer rate. Your upload speed : 241830 bps, or 236 kbps.

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[Mafiaman]

One thing that always gets forgotten in these test, no matter how fast you can go, you'll never go faster than the point that you are connected to.