Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   The Reef Tank > The Reference Place > Topic of the Week Archive


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

 
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-27-2006, 07:06 PM   #1
tims
Admin/ Super mod
 
tims's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
Posts: 20,364
Images: 224

Bi weekly disscusion ---Fragging 101


Okay it seems that we have a alot of threads asking about how to frag this or that. So lets see and here how you frag yoru corals!
not sure how to Frag a coral ??? then ask away.
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
Tim
need something to read? just ask me.
tims is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:14 PM   #2
Cosine
Shark
 
Cosine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newfoundland
Posts: 1,982
Another good thread idea
Should we start with a certain type/group of coral or just any?
__________________
-Bill
Cosine is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:16 PM   #3
tims
Admin/ Super mod
 
tims's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
Posts: 20,364
Images: 224
Bill,
good to see ya!
i think all types are good to go..
please add a title to it when you post as to the type of coral ( ie. Colt , Bubble,etc...)
__________________
Tim
need something to read? just ask me.
tims is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:24 PM   #4
Twitterbait
Professor Chaos
 
Twitterbait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arkham Asylum
Posts: 10,104
Images: 4
Reviews: 12
For starters I will mention tools. for most i have found that a good pair of surgical bone clippers are sooooo worth it. they are sharp and stainless so they don't rust like wire clippers do. for the mushrooms all you need is a razor blade.
__________________
I mix twinkies and ding dongs all the time, in Europe they call it a Dinky -- Homer Simpson
Twitterbait is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:24 PM   #5
whatevva
The Muddy Mod
 
whatevva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
Posts: 5,523

Zoos


How about zoos? Is there any other way, other that bustin' off a piece of the rock?
__________________
Butch
***Factory Trained BMW Driver***
****Proud member of the PRG****
*President of Tri-State Reef Society*
"I'm King of the Sea People" - Cartman
whatevva is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:27 PM   #6
Cosine
Shark
 
Cosine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newfoundland
Posts: 1,982

Sarcophyton - Toadstool Leather


These are fairly easy to frag

what I have done is simply cut off the crown and a new one will grow from the remaining stalk. Also if you cut the crown into small sections each of these will grow up. You can use a sharp knife or scissors.

Now after they are cut up attaching is the next step. A few ways of doing this is placing the frags on some rubble in a low flow area... they will attach in a few days to a few weeks. Other methods include sewing the frag to a piece of rock with thread or attach with toothpics. Wedding vail is another way that I've never tried but have heard many people recommend.

Oh yeah, also if you can frag in a bowl or another tank than your display it might be for the best since the leather will put off some fluid as a defense mechanism I assume. So by fragging in another tank there's less risk of other corals being harmed by this.

Wear gloves as well... the smell will stay with you if you don't.

Feel free to add or correct me on any of this!
__________________
-Bill
Cosine is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 07:29 PM   #7
tims
Admin/ Super mod
 
tims's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
Posts: 20,364
Images: 224
Butch which type of Zoa's are you asking about?
__________________
Tim
need something to read? just ask me.
tims is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 08:23 PM   #8
whatevva
The Muddy Mod
 
whatevva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
Posts: 5,523
Quote:
Butch which type of Zoa's are you asking about?
I guess you'd call them Palys. Like this:

__________________
Butch
***Factory Trained BMW Driver***
****Proud member of the PRG****
*President of Tri-State Reef Society*
"I'm King of the Sea People" - Cartman
whatevva is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 08:33 PM   #9
xtopher
Noo Doot Aboot It!
 
xtopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Prince George
Posts: 2,768
aside from busting up the rock or pulling the zoas off the only solution I can think of is placing a small piece of coral rubble in the middle of the colony and just wait till they move onto it???
xtopher is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 08:37 PM   #10
xtopher
Noo Doot Aboot It!
 
xtopher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Prince George
Posts: 2,768

Xenias and GSP


for the xeniids the best way is to cut them at the bottom of the stock and reattach to a rock using an elastic band ( I have been reading quite a bit that superglue doen't really work for this application and I know from experience elastics work). Another way is to place a rock next to the mother colony and wait for them to move onto the rock. GSP are pretty much the same just rip a chunk off and away you go, off to the LFS for a credit
xtopher is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 09:02 PM   #11
gwen_o_lyn
Nothing to See Here
 
gwen_o_lyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cartersville, Georgia
Posts: 2,995
Fragging Xenia video
http://www.talkingreef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216
gwen_o_lyn is offline  
Old 02-27-2006, 10:36 PM   #12
mtfatwork
TCMAS President
 
mtfatwork's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lakeland, MN
Posts: 4,946
Images: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by xtopher
aside from busting up the rock or pulling the zoas off the only solution I can think of is placing a small piece of coral rubble in the middle of the colony and just wait till they move onto it???
How do you pull them off? I thought they were toxic?
__________________
click on this tcmas I dare you!
mtfatwork is offline  
Old 02-28-2006, 01:42 AM   #13
three90s&125sump
uber-stupid
 
three90s&125sump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Biloxi, MS
Posts: 4,762
You can cut the head off the zoas and attach them like you would the sarcophyton. If you really want to do it like that. Placing a piece of rock in the middle of the bunch will do it much easier but not as fast.

The xenias?... well they are easy, too. They will grow UP very fast even to the point of crawling. Every where they crawl, they will leave a "snail" trail behind them which will turn into new xenias over a short period of time. You can also, chop them up, even if you pluck off a single hand it will grow into a new one very fast.

Almost every LPS that branches is extremely easy to frag. Just bust off a stalk or 2 or 3 or however many you want and its done.

Shrooms are easy as well. One way I have found to propagate them is to piss them off. Spray a PH right into a colony of them and they will break their selves apart and leave nubs behind that will grow into new shrooms very fast. Or, you can chop them up how ever you wish and each little piece will become a new shroom. Use the same method as described for the sarcophyton for attachment.

I have never had any luck what so ever with SPS or non-branching LPS propagation.
__________________
Jason

My girlfriend says bigger is better, so I am going to build the biggest skimmer I can.
three90s&125sump is offline  
Old 02-28-2006, 06:27 AM   #14
whatevva
The Muddy Mod
 
whatevva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Uxbridge, MA
Posts: 5,523
Quote:
You can also, chop them up,
Ughhhhh
__________________
Butch
***Factory Trained BMW Driver***
****Proud member of the PRG****
*President of Tri-State Reef Society*
"I'm King of the Sea People" - Cartman
whatevva is offline  
Old 02-28-2006, 11:27 AM   #15
dobejazz
Duper Mod !
 
dobejazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 14,335
Images: 1312
Reviews: 10

Xenia


I've had the best luck just putting live rock rubble next to them and off they go!! I can't bring myself to cut them My husband would do the cutting but so far I can't bring myself to let him!
__________________




Kelli
dobejazz is online now  
Comparison Shopping
Mag-Drive 9.5 / 950 Pump

As low as $15

at 41 sellers

Tom Aquatics Rapids Mini Canister Filter C-80

As low as $25

at 11 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Aqua Logic Delta Star 3/4HP Chiller

As low as $1900

at 4 sellers

250 Watt 5500K Metal Halide Bulb Single-Ended (Mogul) (All Brands)

As low as $32

at 4 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

ViaAqua Magnet Cleaner M

As low as $5

at 3 sellers

CaribSea Aragamax Oolitic Select Sand 30 lb

As low as $21

at 9 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Sea-Lab 28 .5 lb Jar

As low as $7

at 3 sellers

San Francisco Bay Brand Freeze Dried Bloodworms 1/2 oz.

As low as $3

at 8 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Ocean Nutrition Brine Shrimp Plus Cube Tray 7oz

As low as $7

at 5 sellers

Ocean Nutrition Formula One Flake 2.5 oz

As low as $4

at 23 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Seachem Renew 1 L

As low as $9

at 10 sellers

Kent Marine Reef Carbon 2 Qt

As low as $13

at 17 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Eheim Jager Heater 150W

As low as $20

at 29 sellers

Kordon Aquarium NovAqua Plus Water Conditioner - 8oz

As low as $4

at 19 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

 

Tags
bubble coral , button polyp , button polyps , cabbage leather , colt coral , coral frag , kenya tree , kenya trees , mag float , micro bubbles , monti cap , monti digi , mother colony , plate coral , rock rubble , rubble rock , soft corals , star polyp , star polyps , toadstool , toadstool leather



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Our lawyer tells us that, by pressing the "New Thread" or "New Reply" button, you acknowledge that the opinions and information expressed in your article are yours alone and not those of thereeftank.com, dba The Reef Tank. Further, you agree to indemnify The Reef Tank, its moderators, administrators and agents from any and all liability which may arise as a result of your article. (C)opyright 2006 TheReefTank.com
 
close
Sign up for free and join one of the largest communities of saltwater aquarists!
Our members will be glad to help you with anything you need!

Join over 30,000 TRT members!

Email

Email Confirm Email
Username
Password Confirm Password

I agree to the website rules