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08-17-2003, 07:04 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Plainview, Minnesota
Posts: 398
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Never Ever Again!
Will I have a DSB in my tank, what a PITA to clean out! The bottom sand is compacted etc etc. Plus following the think tank thread, I will never ever have another one! 1" of sand is all that will be in the bottom of my tank from now on!
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08-17-2003, 07:15 PM
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Shark
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Posts: 3,074
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lolol well after hurting my brain reading the think tank thread, i've rethought the idea as well. i'm gonna shorten my cls returns in the bottom of the tank, and only put in about 2 inches of southdown, just enough to cover the returns .
and put in plenty of critters like crabs, sand stirrer stars, and possibly cukes as well.
so stoney....tell us how you REALLY feel 
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08-17-2003, 07:19 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Plainview, Minnesota
Posts: 398
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Ask my neighbors who are pounding on the door from the sand bed stench permeating the hall ways and the other apartments in the building! EEEEWWWWWWWWW! Next stop wal-mart and $30 in little renuzit jell airfreshners later!
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08-17-2003, 07:26 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 54
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Heck I am scared of an inch. I want the poop OUT of my system.
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08-17-2003, 07:55 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Plymouth, MA, USA
Posts: 407
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Thats funny. My tank was up for 3.5 yrs and I just had to move it due to remodeling. I had to take out about 50% of the sand bed and it just smelled like the ocean....no sulfur, no stench, etc. If we could only figure out all the variables...
Pat
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08-17-2003, 09:22 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Coast N.S.W Australia
Posts: 97
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Stoney Reef, what type of sand where you using and how long was the sand bed setup for?
I have helped move a 5 and a 7 year old DSB and the only smell that I smelt was a very slight odour from a portion of the black area of the 5 yo DSB but it wasnt offensive and certainly not anything that could have been smelled in the next room let alone neighbours.
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08-17-2003, 09:39 PM
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ROOTS...ROCKS...REGGAE
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: south suburbs of Chicago,Il USA
Posts: 1,214
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Today I removed a 4-5" DSB from a 3 year old 22 gal refugium and it didn't smell bad at all. The top 2" were very dirty with a yellowish crap/detritus but below that it was very clean and white as the day I put it in. Don't know why yours smelled bad and was compacted ???
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08-17-2003, 10:18 PM
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Jedi Master
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,437
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Lack of flow and critters will cause the problems that you describe. I will never set up a tank without a DSB. No filtration system is perfect for everyone. I have had great success with a DSB and I am going to stick with it.
Andrew
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08-17-2003, 10:30 PM
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Banggai Mommy
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 2,342
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(Yeah, but I might not. I'm still on the fence with this one.)
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08-17-2003, 10:49 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: South Coast N.S.W Australia
Posts: 97
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The DSB recipe for marital bliss 
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08-17-2003, 11:52 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Plainview, Minnesota
Posts: 398
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90 gallon AGA with 2100 gph flow. Using caribsea sugar sized oolitic sand. Various spaghetti worms, nassarius snails etc etc! Found some dead cerith snails in the middle of the mess.
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08-18-2003, 08:12 AM
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Summer's Daddy
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lawrenceville, Ga in a van down by the river
Posts: 2,675
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I guess because I set up my dsb with varying degrees of sizes. (IE, About 4 parts oolitic sand, 1-2 parts cc, 2 parts the super fine colored sand from caribsea), is why I don't seem to have much of a problem. I use the different degrees because I tend to like to keep Jawfish and like the color of the top layer.
Ray
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08-18-2003, 10:44 AM
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www.RMMAC.org Dreamer
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Byron MN, USA
Posts: 1,862
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Patric sometimes I wonder about your luck. I have a 90, a 58, and a sump with DSP and they are all doing well. When I moved I even dug out the 90 DSB and threw it out because it had a crushed coral base and it did not smell too bad. None of them are hard(**** Clown for digging to prove it) or seem to have any other problems and they are all teeming with life.
Maybe your lights melted the sand together 
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08-18-2003, 04:46 PM
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shark bait
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: south of the north pole
Posts: 778
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well, i learned alittle leasson... completely bare bottom tanks are a pita to keep clean too..... it wasn't the fishpoo build up, it was all those little critters living in the liverocks that kept making most of the mess  burrowing and ejecting their mess had created a sand like build up along the spraybar, and made the bottom of the tank unappealing to look at. so i had to add a patch of geo-marine crushed coral around the front and sides of the tank to fill in the void. looks better too!

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08-18-2003, 09:29 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Plainview, Minnesota
Posts: 398
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I will use a 1" sand bed.
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