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02-04-2003, 09:01 PM
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Obsessed Reefer!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Which are the 'Reef Safe' Angels
I notice that a lot of TRT photos show angels & butterflies in the tanks. I thought these fish ate live coral and weren't good for reef tanks. Are there reef 'safe' angels? Does it depend on the size of the tank? Advice please....I am in the fish selection process......
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02-04-2003, 09:08 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Portland, OR
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ok...
you wanna guaranteee...go to Sears. With that said, most would say the pygmy angels are ok (genus Centropyge). I've also seen Flame angels in reefs, and many other angels you woouldn't exptect or recommend...liike Emperors, blueface, etc.
Butterflies....Copperbands are usually no problem with corals. Know more than a few Copperbands in full-flegged reefs, all SPS dominant. Problem with Copperbands is getting them to eat. Mysis usually works. |
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02-05-2003, 08:58 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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"REEF-SAFE" was a topic of the week not to long ago, there is an archive for them
I find these to be utterly reef safe tho the rest of the squirmy ones are always risky
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02-05-2003, 09:03 AM
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Obsessed Reefer!
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Ha ha ha guys - ok - advice taken.......I know I can always count on you 'experts'! (I think I'll just stick to clowns, gobies and tangs)!
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02-05-2003, 09:09 AM
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Super Moderator
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YL FWIW I had very good luck with the Cherub Angel, Centropyge argi 
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02-05-2003, 11:11 AM
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TRT Staff The Mominator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Just South Of Seattle
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Adding fish is a crap shoot. Go in expecting the worst and you won't be surprised 
Whether or not a fish will eat what you prize in your tank is going to depend as much on the indivdual fish as well as the species propensity for munching.
Good luck!
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02-05-2003, 11:13 AM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Portland, OR
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well said Alice!
that says it all. |
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02-05-2003, 01:09 PM
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squid
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Northern NJ/Southern NY border
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I had a cherub that was fine in a 10 gal nano until it decided to try its hand at carpet surfing.
I bought an established 65 gal that had (among other fish) a juvie queen angel and a flame angel. I have someone holding onto the queen until the FO is up & running: she/he was fine with corals, but constantly nipped at the LR eating sponges (main part of their diet) and kept knocking over frags.
Now, the flame angel was supposedly "reef safe" according to the previous owner, and never nipped corals. Well, he also only had shrooms, torches, GSP and a monster Pagoda in there. No problem until I transferred my SPS into the tank & the fish staerted nipping away. Never actually eting anything, but the corals remain closed most of the day, being annoyed by being disturbed, and full-open at night. Growth is fine, though.
This little angel has been the BIGGEST PITA to catch. I'd avoid this one for sure if you plan on SPS. |
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02-05-2003, 01:36 PM
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Big Fishy
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: ny
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half black and flame angels are being tank raised i would say theres a good chance one of these specimens would be unlikly to nip if you can find one
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02-05-2003, 05:29 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PNW
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I just put a potters angel in my 60gal. I have a mix of just about everything in there and he has never bothered anything yet. I have heard from many sources that this is one of the few... but then some of those sources say flames are totally reef safe and I have seen some tanks devistated from flames, so you never know. A great algae eater was c. flavicada the yellow tailed angel. It looks like the pigmy only all dark with a pale yellow tail. He kept the algae down to a dull roar, even off of my yellow tree coral. The only draw back is these things are nasty, mean, and downright snotty!!! He ruled the tank with an iron fin, and no body was alowed to step out of line or he lost a tail!
Anyway, if you put one in and you don't like it's feeding habbits, it's not easy to get them out! I had to break down my whole tank to get that little demon out of my tank (man I wanted to feed that thing to a shark... or better yet a damsel fish... but I was afraid it would beat the snot out of the shark...) |
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02-05-2003, 06:41 PM
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Eat more PIE
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida Panhandle
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I agree with Dougs pics and mine of course are reef safe  Casey
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02-05-2003, 07:17 PM
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Fish Boy
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Marietta, GA
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the centropege angels are the most reef-friendly. but you will always take a chance. we dont see too many problems with them. Clams are usually the biggest issue.
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02-06-2003, 02:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: south of the north pole
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i have not had any luck with pigmy angelfish in a reef enviroment. i know a few ppl have had no problems, but i got tired of my halfblack eating my polyps. i think back on how much that little bugger ate, he was sooo spoiled. i'm glad i traded him back to the lfs. there are many other species that you could stock your tank with like tangs, blennies, anthias ect......
question you need to ask yourself is do i want to purchase a fish that has the potential to turn any reeftank into its personal candystore?
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