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Old 02-13-2001, 08:06 AM   #1
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Peaceful Reef Safe Fish


I know... no such thing, at least if you get picky enough about it. I've got a 120 gallon tank with four fish in it: Maroon Clown, Yellow Tang, Coral Beauty, and one Lyretail Anthias. I can't add fish at the moment, but I want to do some planning.

First let me say, that one fish that I *will* eventually own is a Powder Blue Tang, and yes when that time comes the Yellow Tang will come out first.

Second, I've just about had it with my Maroon Clown digging in my sandbed, so I'm just about ready to jerk him out of there now.

Last but not least, I know I need more Anthias and that is the only other fish that I'm set on having. Other than that, I'm wide open.

I would like to know what fish you folks like, leaning toward the peaceful "can't we all just get along" fish...


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Old 02-13-2001, 09:43 AM   #2
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I love my 6-line wrasse. He likes to swim through any holes that he can fit!

If you want a clownfish, instead of the maroon, try just the perculas (true or fake) or one of the skunk clowns, those are cool too.
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Old 02-13-2001, 10:39 AM   #3
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I kinda like my Clown, except for him digging in the sandbed. But my LFS tells me that they're mean, not on the order of a Blue Damsel, but in the same ballpark. While I've never witnessed this behavior, I've had enough of the digging. I like the look of the True Percula's, are they nasty? or have any other bad habits that I should know about ? Can you have more than one ?
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Old 02-13-2001, 11:48 AM   #4
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Maroons are really into digging, i have a pair myself and both of them loves to dig my sandbed.

The Perculas aren't as aggressive. Maybe about half? And I think you can easily find a pair. It's a lot easier to pair up these than the maroons. Bad behavior... none that I know of.
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Old 02-13-2001, 01:12 PM   #5
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Should I consider an anemone to go with them? I like the sounds of the True Percula to replace my Maroon.

Any other suggestions for different types of fish ?

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Old 02-13-2001, 01:44 PM   #6
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I have the same problem with my Tomato Clown digging. It doesn't bother me much but he throws the sand on the corals and they get pretty un-happy.

I love the looks of a powder blue tang and I would love to have one but I don't think my 120 is big enough for one when they are full grown. Don't they get to be about 6"?

One fish that is peaceful is a lawnmower blenny. They aren't very pretty, in fact, they're downright ugly. But I love mine anyway. He's my favorite fish. http://rogletree.homestead.com/files/blennyt.jpg

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Old 02-13-2001, 02:22 PM   #7
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Kinesthesia,
The Powder Blue Tang (Acanthurus leucosternon) reaches well over a foot long!! I have seen one over 10" in a 200 and he seemed to be looking for more room!!!
IMHO, a 48" 120 is too small for an adult.
A pair of Percula/Ocellaris are great for any tank but will do fine without the anenome. Mine especially love Ricordea mushrooms and Frogspawn!
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Neon Goby, Lawnmower Blenny or Firefish would be nice additions to what you have.
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Old 02-13-2001, 02:44 PM   #8
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Rick, the powerder blue will easily get to be a foot in an aquarium.

I don't know about lawnmower blenny though. I've heard some stories about how they get to be real agressive.

Kin,

Don't need anemone at all. Many other corals can act as the host (leather, frogspawn, xenia, mushrooms) depending on the clown fish's taste.
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Old 02-13-2001, 02:52 PM   #9
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Quote:
Don't they get to be about 6"?
With the help of the "edit" button I can make it look like I knew what I was talking about.

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Old 02-13-2001, 04:57 PM   #10
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You may find that the Oscellaris (or false percula) is a bit hardier than true perculas, and live longer in the home aquarium. They also "pair" easily. I have had both and the look is similar enough that I now go for the easier guys to care for (Oscellaris). Perculas tend to get along with other perculas, but not with other types of clownfish...you might have to swap your maroon, although sounds like you have a built in "sand stirrer" and won't need to spend money to buy one!

As for "friendly" reef fish, the smaller blennies and gobies do well, but tend to hide somewhat. Batfish are nice, but require a quiet environment and they don't tolerate being picked on by more aggressive fish. Marine beta's are also friendly, but are shy and also hide a lot. Foxface rabbitfish are friendly as well, but venomous. Same with lions, I keep a radiata lion in my reef, but lions will definitely limit what you can keep in your tank as far as shrimp or small fish. Hawkfish also eat shrimp, but are fun to watch and coral safe. You will have to decide if you want a mixture of big fishies and little fishies or just mostly the same size. Obviously, tangs are very popular reef fish, just don't keep tangs of the same species or similar looks. I also have a Sailfin Tang in my reef and really like the colors. Hope that helps and good luck.

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Old 02-13-2001, 05:15 PM   #11
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They are right about your fish not needing an anemone . But if you decide to get one please research them exstensivly on anemone frindley websites. If you do want an anemone then I whould go with the bubble tip. They are easier(not easy) than the other host and they are the natural host of your maroon. But if you go with Occelaris try to get tank breed specimans.
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Old 02-13-2001, 11:13 PM   #12
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LOL Rick!
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Old 02-14-2001, 07:52 AM   #13
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Ok, so... based on the responses so far... I'm thinking of replacing my Maroon clown with a pair of True Perculas (sans anemone), and/or a pair of Banggai's, or a Sixline, or a Firefish...
What about the "sand sifter gobies" ?

Since my dreams of a Powder Blue have been destroyed... anybody have any larger peaceful Reefsafe fish in mind ?

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Old 02-14-2001, 08:53 AM   #14
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Sand sifters in a reef tank just arent' a good idea. You want to keep all the critters in your sand bed! If you are looking for some interest in the bottom of the tank, you could try a jawfish. Jawfish do not sift the sand, they burrow in it. A 120 wouldn't be impacted much by the burrowing of one or two jawfish. You have to bear in mind though, they don't always dig a burrow where you want them to and they can dig more than one. You may have to reaarange some corals on the substrate to accomodate him. I have one in my nano and never tire of watching him. In such a small tank I couldn't have him digging all over so I found a good rock that had a big hole all the way through it and "encouraged" him to use that burrow only by filling in his other ones. It took about two weeks but he's happily been in that one spot ever since.

Tangs are about it in the way of large "reef friendly" fish. Wrasses get too predatory, IMO, on other critters in your reef and most of the angels are coral pickers and will get large like the Powder Blue.

With a small harem of Anthias, your Yellow tang and several other small fish, your tank will look plenty lively.

Two of my favorites in my tank are my bi-color blenny (very amusing fish) and my C. argi pygmy angel. She is very active, darting in and out of the rocks all day. Dwarf angels can be polyp pickers but the C. argi has the best reputation of the bunch and mine has been perfectly well behaved (knock wood). I know several other board members have them in their reef tanks as well.

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Old 02-14-2001, 09:23 AM   #15
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My Cherub Angel, Centropyge argi, is a great fish. She's about a year and a half old now and a perfect lady! I would have mentioned a Cherub except that you already have a Coral Beauty and I'm not sure about the compatability of two similar size Angels.
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