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Old 12-01-2003, 02:56 PM   #1
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Brain coral trouble


I can't take it anymore. I am getting stressed out. I just bought a green open brain from the fish store, which was looking really good, all opened up. I brought him home and placed him on the sandbed. It was all shriveled up from the ride, and only had two small spots of skeleton showing on top. Well, 4 days later, its still not opening, and now there is quite a bit more skeleton showing on top. About 5 or 6 spots. Its color is fine, and it ate some brine this morning. I did a search, and really didn't get much info. The only thing I got was maybe it was getting too much light, so I moved it to a more shaded spot. Its sits on the sand about 20" from the light. Any ideas on what is causing this? I hate getting stressed over sick corals. Thanks in advance.

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:59 PM   #2
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What is your SG or Salinity levels? Also how old is your tank setup? How frequent are your water changes?

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:09 PM   #3
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I havn't tested my salinity. Going to the store today to get a test kit for that and calcium. My tank has been set up now for almost 3 months. I do a 15% water change every week with RO water.
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Old 12-01-2003, 04:14 PM   #4
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You need to get you a good hydrometer to test your SG or Salinity and you want to keep it about SG 1.025 or 35PPT. How are you testing you saltwater makeup if you are not testing SG or salinity with a hydrometer?

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:24 PM   #5
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I just have a test kit for Amm, NO2, NO3, Alk, and PH. I just took another look at the brain. Its showing alot of skeleton on top.
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Old 12-01-2003, 05:26 PM   #6
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What I meant by testing your salinity is how are you making up your saltwater to the proper salinity level or SG (Specific Gravity)?

You need to have a Hydrometer to get these readings. Are you just mixing the salt according to the packaging?

Get a Hydrometer they are around $8 to $12 at the LFS and see what your SG is if it is off the chart or too low that could be affecting the coral and won't be good for the other inhabitants in the tank.

Also are you toping off your tank with fresh RO Water on a daily basis to keep your Salinity Level's or SG in line with evaporation?

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Old 12-01-2003, 05:40 PM   #7
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I get RO water form my LFS for my water changes. I don't top off my tank until the next water change. I just got a hydrometer and Ca test kit, so I will go see what my readings are.
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Old 12-01-2003, 05:55 PM   #8
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Hi there,
Knowing your salinity is absolutely crucial... I cannot believe a reputable LFS would help you setup a tank and not insist on this key tool. (A cheap swing arm should run you $10 or less...)

Being able to appropriately top off evaporation is also practically impossible without one... definitely check this first, as it's highly likely a source of problems.

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Old 12-01-2003, 06:23 PM   #9
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Well, it turns out my salinity is off the charts(above 1.030). I have to re-check my calcium, it might be a little high as well. So what do I do about the salinity level?
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Old 12-01-2003, 07:01 PM   #10
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OK I read your posts in reverse...

Calcium should be the least of your worries right now...

Are you buying fresh RO or pre-mixed saltwater?

I'm confused now

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Old 12-01-2003, 07:26 PM   #11
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I posted this in my other thread, but to help clarify, I get my water pre-mixed from the LFS.
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Old 12-01-2003, 07:32 PM   #12
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Does the LFS also sell fresh RO water? If they don't they might end up with a bunch of customers with the same problem you have.

Water evaporates, salt does not...

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Old 12-01-2003, 07:55 PM   #13
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no hydrometer for 3 months
i would return the open brain coral, it can be difficult to keep an open brain under pc only lighting, imo.
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I respectfully disagree, SouthernReefer - if it's a Trachyphyllia sp, it's relatively easy to keep, under the right conditions. I have had one in a 29 g that I maintain, under 2 x 15 w NO lamps, for over a year now. It's growing - not exponentially, but it's growing and thriving. These can be found in fairly deep water (I read somewhere ~140 feet down) and the light is not intense.

I think that once the salinity issue is resolved, as long as there is no other issue, it should be OK - IF it isn't too late.

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I sure appreciate all the help. Hopefully the salinity issue will resolve everything. I learned quite a few things today! Thanks to all. This forum is great!
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