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08-20-2003, 09:26 PM
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Phosphates in DSB's
Exactly what kinds of phosphates will be found in a DSB?
Some are stable, some not. Some are available, some not. Some need help breaking down, some don't.
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08-20-2003, 09:43 PM
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Shark
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Funny you posted that question Spank. I have been working with 2 local reefers that have been just going through a ton of problems. It was really getting to me as I was having a hard time figuring out what the hech was going wrong. But set ups were first class and one was a recent TOTM on RC.
BY fluke I asked one of the guys to take a Phosphate test of the water just in the surface of his sand and it came back High, He also came back with a high nitrate test of the sand water, but none in the water column. On the second guy His reading were way up on both nitrates and phosphate.
So tell me a little more on whats running through your head, lol
Mike
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08-20-2003, 09:48 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
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Tell me the different types of phosphates and which types would be found in a DSB first. 
Once we figure out what they are, we can figure out how to get rid of them. 
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08-20-2003, 10:00 PM
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Shark
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Dog...lol
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08-20-2003, 10:04 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
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Well I see all these people demanding the "science" behind DSB's. Sooo we're going there.
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08-20-2003, 10:11 PM
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Shark
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bacteriogenerated reactive orthophosphates.
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08-20-2003, 10:12 PM
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Shark
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Alkaline phosphatase mediated organophosphates
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08-20-2003, 10:13 PM
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Jerel I think your trying to get Tom's library card revoked...  |
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08-20-2003, 10:15 PM
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Shark
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inorganic orthophosphate, polyphosphates, But hey their are tons of organic types. Pretty much with phosphate esters They are link to almost every living cell, so that could be a long list.
Mike
Last edited by mojoreef; 08-20-2003 at 10:17 PM.
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08-20-2003, 10:20 PM
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Shark
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They are link to almost every living cell, so that could be a long list.
Mike, you don't even want to know.
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08-20-2003, 10:23 PM
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Stress Monger
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Chris is this the point where we should all make a strong pot of coffee???
I'll admit that this is getting beyond me but I'm sticking with it because i want to learn and enjoy the challenge.
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08-20-2003, 10:25 PM
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Shark
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lol, not unless you got me a pot too Don. My maker crapped out on me.
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08-20-2003, 10:26 PM
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Shark
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Phoshoric acid, Dihydrogen Phosphate, Hydrogen phosphate,pyrophosphate, tripolyphosphate, trimetaphosphate, tetrametaphosphate, Adenosinec tri phosphate and plain old phosphate. Thats all you get now work with it, lol
Are you going inot Millero's world???????
Mike
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08-20-2003, 10:30 PM
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Shark
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you forgot calcium phosphate.
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08-20-2003, 10:34 PM
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Well if were going to do strong coffee lets do it right... |
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