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Old 05-12-2011, 12:59 AM   #1
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Is my anemone dying >_<


Hey everyone, I'm knew to the forums and fairly new to salt water still. Purchased my first anemone a few days ago and the base has shrivled up on me D:

Just wondering if this is normal

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37g (22" high tank)
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The tank has only been set up about two months but I was assured by the LFS that it was okay to put an anemone in.. but I have read conflicting opinions on that >_>





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Old 05-12-2011, 01:00 AM   #2
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Oh and I'm not sure whether it matters or not but they did tell me he had eaten a feeder goldfish about a day before I purchased him
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:39 AM   #3
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Too soon! But it's too late now. I would dig a hole for his foot or see if the store will take him back till your tank matures

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Old 05-12-2011, 08:00 AM   #4
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'Too Soon' is what 99.9% of everyone will tell you on any forum, but I disagree. As long as you can control your water parameters it doesn't matter how long your tank has been set up. Test your Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrates and post them here. Your nitrates should be below 20ppm and your Ammonia and Nitrite should be at zero. If they aren't, I'd suggest a hang on filter with some aged biomaterial from another tank (if you can get your hands on some). I used live rock, live sand, and 20 year old bioballs on my tank and it was fully cycled in just a few days.

It may be difficult to keep your nitrates down with those fish in there without a refugium, large water changes, or some kind of nitrate absorbing resin. Do you have any ideas for nitrate removal? Long tentacles are really tough, but you can still kill them. My long tentacle looked similar and detached from everything until he found a good spot. You may build a small hole out of your rockwork about four inches deep and gently put him in the hole to keep him in one place and keep his foot buried in something (a hole in the rockwork). He will eventually come out and try to dig in the substrate but he'll be happy for now.

Is that a percula in your long tentacle? I've been trying to get mine to host for weeks.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:10 AM   #5
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I disagree 2 month old tank is still in a cycle and this will stress the nem, why do that? and if it dies and crashes the tank would it then be worth it?
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:30 AM   #6
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yes it is a percula he hosted the same day! i think its because hes lonely by himself and hes quite young

i did use live sand and live rock. i didnt put anything else in for at least 3 weeks and i kept adding more live rock as it was cycling. my tank has never spiked. im using a fluval 405 which is filled only with bio balls.

i cant get my ammonia test to work but i do test nitrate and nitrite regularly. only once trace amounts of nitrate were found and i did a 10% water change which fixed that

he has shifted since last night but still a partially shrivled base:

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'Too Soon' is what 99.9% of everyone will tell you on any forum, but I disagree. As long as you can control your water parameters it doesn't matter how long your tank has been set up. Test your Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrates and post them here. Your nitrates should be below 20ppm and your Ammonia and Nitrite should be at zero. If they aren't, I'd suggest a hang on filter with some aged biomaterial from another tank (if you can get your hands on some). I used live rock, live sand, and 20 year old bioballs on my tank and it was fully cycled in just a few days.

It may be difficult to keep your nitrates down with those fish in there without a refugium, large water changes, or some kind of nitrate absorbing resin. Do you have any ideas for nitrate removal? Long tentacles are really tough, but you can still kill them. My long tentacle looked similar and detached from everything until he found a good spot. You may build a small hole out of your rockwork about four inches deep and gently put him in the hole to keep him in one place and keep his foot buried in something (a hole in the rockwork). He will eventually come out and try to dig in the substrate but he'll be happy for now.

Is that a percula in your long tentacle? I've been trying to get mine to host for weeks.

99.9% of the people say it is too soon cuz 99.9% of the Anemones die in new tanks!!!! I would take the animal back to LFS
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:10 PM   #9
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'Too Soon' is what 99.9% of everyone will tell you on any forum, but I disagree. As long as you can control your water parameters it doesn't matter how long your tank has been set up. Test your Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrates and post them here. Your nitrates should be below 20ppm and your Ammonia and Nitrite should be at zero. If they aren't, I'd suggest a hang on filter with some aged biomaterial from another tank (if you can get your hands on some). I used live rock, live sand, and 20 year old bioballs on my tank and it was fully cycled in just a few days.

It may be difficult to keep your nitrates down with those fish in there without a refugium, large water changes, or some kind of nitrate absorbing resin. Do you have any ideas for nitrate removal? Long tentacles are really tough, but you can still kill them. My long tentacle looked similar and detached from everything until he found a good spot. You may build a small hole out of your rockwork about four inches deep and gently put him in the hole to keep him in one place and keep his foot buried in something (a hole in the rockwork). He will eventually come out and try to dig in the substrate but he'll be happy for now.

Is that a percula in your long tentacle? I've been trying to get mine to host for weeks.
This is awful advice. Clams, anemones, and other sensitive inverts require a mature tank in order to thrive. Not just a tank that's cycled. It takes a year or more for a tank to go through the blooms and dieoff of bacteria etc to reach an equilibrium, which we call a mature tank.
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Actually, in this case, I'd have to agree with the above suggestions based on the looks of your live rock. I doesn't look like it's very seasoned, and unless you used very mature bioballs your tank may be and probably is very unstable. However, I'm not saying this is always the case. Think about it this way, if you were to take everything out of your tank and put it in a new glass aquarium, everything else being the same except the tank, you would be virutally cycled instantly (same old rock, sand, bioball, etc..). This is what you should always strive for in a new tank. I never have 'New Tank Syndrome' because I use as much 'old' stuff as I can get my hands on. If you have a buddy with a 20 year old tank see if he'll give you some rock or bioballs. I'd never buy 'white' rock myself, it tends to go through the blooms they mention above. Better to buy some quality 'purple' rock a little at a time for more $$.


OOOOO I just saw a really weird sea hare creature come crawling out of my live rock for the first time. COOOOL. He looks more like a grey land slug LOL.
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Heres my two cents...
First off, I wouldn't use too much inappropriate slang if i was sad...
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Secondly, 2 months to me isn't a cycle, patience is key to getting a good reef
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Heres my two cents...
First off, I wouldn't use too much inappropriate slang if i was sad...


Secondly, 2 months to me isn't a cycle, patience is key to getting a good reef
With the looks of the tank above I agree. However, I just set up a 6 gallon nano-reef using nearly everything from established aquariums and it almost instantly was cycled and mature. You can do that with your big old 100 gallon reef thats 20 years old and fully mature, just dismantle it and make four 25 gallon reef tanks that will be instantly cycled and mature. I learned that trick when I had freshwater, just take some gravel from the big tank (undergravel filter) and use it as the substrate in the little tank. Presto! You have a new tank that won't cycle.



Now if you use uncured rock and dry crushed coral and new bioballs you are in for a long long cycle time, perhaps as long as a year before it's mature.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:53 PM   #13
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okay okay.. im getting a lot of the same reaction here. opinions on cycled tanks aside, what is the problem with him?

i came home to find more weirdness.. its almost like his orangeness is rubbing off on the rocks.. did he get crushed or something maybe? D:


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It may have attached and then released on it's own. You may be seeing some remnants of the foot on the rock

Please do not feed your anemone feeder goldfish like your LFS did. I can't even begin to go over what's wrong with doing that.
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it sounds like my LFS is dumb as hell.. i think ill start listening to you guys more >_>
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