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Old 12-25-2009, 04:10 PM   #1
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Pico or Nano?


So i want to set up a pico or nano tank and cant make up my mind. I was looking at the picotope 3 gallon but am not sure if i like that the 9w of light is sufficient i also see the Deco kit aquarium that is about the same thing except with 18w, one bulb is 14000actinic and the other is 7500 daylight and was just going to replace the dalight bulb with another actinic( would that be better than the daylight?) You can see both specs at dr fosters. My other option is to by either a 2.5, 5, or 10 gallon and set it up in there. i am not sur if i want to go that route because of having to buy or modify an excisting light. buying a glass aquarium from the store would allow me to modify the tank(add an over flow and such) But i am not sure. Does Any one have an opinion

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Old 12-25-2009, 05:46 PM   #2
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so i got the picotope, Marine depot has them 25% of untill the 31st. I found out that the other one is acrylic and that is a bad thing! My plans are to break down my 30 and use some of the sand, water, and live rock to get it going. i would like to put a seahorse in it eventually, is this a good idea? i will be making it into a reef i already have some zoas and a mushroom i would like to put in there. So that is the plan all sugestions are welcome
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Old 12-25-2009, 06:10 PM   #3
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No, don't do that. Sea Horses need a very specific habitat. If they are something that you are interested in, go to seahorse.org and research them there. You will never be able to keep steady parameters with a Pico. I would recommend ricordias, zoas and like a sexy shrimp or 2. Possibly a very small goby but that is pushing it.
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Old 12-25-2009, 07:44 PM   #4
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yeah after i posted that i have read a couple places about that not being a good idea. I would like some advice on a good 12" fixture that puts out as much watts as possible and will not make my wife kill me
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:05 PM   #5
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12", you might have to go with PC's. I'll do some looking...
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:08 PM   #6
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This is the only 12" fixture that I can find for the moment...
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:57 PM   #7
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i would disagree with the seahorse i can show you a bad to the bone pico build an it has a sea horse in it clams an everything
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:58 PM   #8
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http://www.melevsreef.com/pico.html
best looking pico i have seen
you can even watch video of casper the sea horse workin it in the tank
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:01 AM   #9
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I would say that that is an exception to the rule. Not the standard. This is quoted from seahorse.org
The seahorse tank
Before you buy a seahorse, be sure you understand the basic principles of how to
keep seahorses in the home aquarium. The best overall source for this knowledge
is Seahorse.org. Keeping marine fish of any type requires knowledge of basic
marine aquarium keeping and water chemistry. There are many books and other
sources of information available. If you prepare adequately and set up an
appropriate sized, fully cycled, and stable tank, you will greatly improve your
chances of success. Seahorses need “hitching posts”—something to cling to while
they are resting. Not having these resting places is stressful for a seahorse.
Seahorses should be introduced into a mature, cycled aquarium. Various filtration
methods and tank set-ups can result in a healthy, stable aquarium. A seahorse
tank must have gentle to moderate currents, with 3–5 times tank volume turned
over per hour. A seahorse tank needs to be void of intense currents and requires
lower flow areas where a seahorse can retreat and rest Water parameters should
be stable before animals are added:
pH – 8.0 to 8.3
Specific gravity – 1.020 to 1.024
Ammonia – 0
Nitrite – 0
Nitrate – <20 ppm
Optimum temperature is dependent on whether the seahorse species is tropical,
subtropical or temperate. Generally, beginners should start with tropical species as
heating a tank is much less expensive than cooling one, and it is easier to
maintain a stable temperature in a tropical tank. Try to keep to the lower end of the
temperature ranges, and let the temperature fluctuate up towards the higher
values of the temperature range. Taller tanks are preferred. Seahorses need
height (2.5 to 3 times the uncurled length of the animals) in their tanks to court and
mate. As a minimum, the internal height of the tank, excluding the substrate,
should be at least 2 times the uncurled length of the seahorse you are keeping.
Temperature and stocking density table for common seahorse
species
The recommended minimum tank size per pair of adult seahorses, as well as the
‘additional’ tank space required by each subsequent pair, is listed in the table
below. For example, H. erectus, allow the first pair 29 gallons then 15 gallons per
pair thereafter.
1) Tropical, 71-74 degrees F (21-23 degrees C)^
H. angustus 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. barbouri 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. comes 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. erectus 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. fuscus 1 pair/10 gallons (38 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (76 litres)
H. kelloggi 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. kuda 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. procerus 1 pair/10 gallons (38 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (76 litres)
H. reidi 1 pair/15 gallons (55 litres); minimum tank size 29 gallons (110 litres)
H. subelongatus 1 pair/30 gallons (114itres); minimum tank size 65 gallons (246 litres)
H. zosterae* 1 pair/1.5 gallons (6 litres); minimum tank size 5 gallons (20 litres)
^ 25 degrees C is the maximum temperature for tropical species and should
not exceed this temperature.
* Recommended to keep in groups of 3 pairs.
2) Subtropical, 67-70 degrees F (19-21 degrees C)
H. ingens 1 pair/30 gallons (114 litres); minimum tank size 65 gallons (246 litres)
H. tuberculatus 1 pair/10 gallons (38 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (76 litres)
H. whitei 1 pair/10 gallons (38 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (76 litres)
3) Temperate, 64–66 degrees F (18-19 degrees C)
H. abdominalis 1 pair/30 gallons (114 litres); minimum tank size 65 gallons (246 litres)
H. breviceps 1 pair/10 gallons (20 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (40 litres)
H. capensis# 1 pair/10 gallons (20 litres); minimum tank size 20 gallons (40 litres)
#H. capensis prefer wide tanks for courtship rather than tall tanks


As you can see H. zosterae is the only compatible pony for a pico however they are recommended to be kept in a group of at least 6... so its up to you, I would not do it.
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Old 12-26-2009, 09:17 AM   #10
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i was just showin it can be done an looked cool
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