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Old 09-28-2007, 07:54 PM   #1
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As Darkness sets in.....


Matt,

Ok few questions about your period of darkness.... Ok, yeah that sounds erie....

1) Do you keep your sump lit the entire time? To maintain PH?

2) You do three days right?

3) How often do you do it...I mean how often are you in the dark....

I am curious because once I get the new light photoperiod set I was think about trying this...I can put card board over the front of the tanks but will need to figure out a way to keep the fishroom completely dark except of light the refugium and frag growout tank which I have on the oposite lighting time as the main tank...

Let me know
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Old 09-29-2007, 08:35 AM   #2
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There is a HUGE thread about this on RC, but it doesn't really have much good info. Here is what I do...
1) I use a toothbrush & baster to get any cyano, film, etc nasties afloat, any hair algae loosened, and the detritus moving into the water column. I try to do this at least weekly anyway, but before the blackout is good especially for algae. I also wipe the glass etc to get the algae off & moving to come out in the overflow/filtersock.

2) Use a piece of window blind, the rollout kind, to cover the entire tank, or as much as possible. I use the big paper clip type binders to hold it to the top edge. Cardboard would be better, as it is more opaque, but I had this available and it works ok.

3)I continue lighting the fuge, for no reason other than I didn't change my controller settings. I dont' think there would be big pH swings of you kept it off, probably doesnt' matter much at all, though you'd get rid of cyano in your sump/fuge if off.

4) I keep lights off for 3 full days. I take the light shield off the last night so the tank gets the daylight from the house/windows before my lights come on at noon.

What have I noticed?
•The water is crystal clear after the blackout.
•After a day of getting light again, polyp extension is greater.
•Algae/detritus is dealt a pretty good blow
•Cyano & film algae are pretty much gone

I have not noted any long/short term issues with corals, though I dont' have a ton of acros, acans, etc. Even my clam does fine and has not complained. Things to retract dramatically during the lights-out period, but they rebound well.

I do feed the fish normally, they don't stress out visibly.
I have taken this opportunity to introduce new fish to the system, usually putting them in on the last day so they can figure things out and the existing residents accept them with the new light.

I have done this four times in the last eight months, at no regular intervals.

I hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions, comments, or suggestions.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:03 AM   #3
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This is a very interesting read Matt. I am planning on getting those 2 tangs that I talked about that F&S is telling me will not work (although I have heard otherwise from countless sources) and have even personally seen it work (last night at Chris's house with his Yellow tang and Purple tang). And knowing about the lights out period would be a fantastic time for me to introduce the new arrivals to the tank as they wouldn't have to fight for areas to call their own. This might be the new way I go about putting in new entries from here on.

Jason

Just a side note. Do you think that if I were to just introduce new fish I could cut the lights-out time down to just one day? I was thinking that it might be enough to confuse the fish and give the new fish a chance to find some hiding spots.
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Old 09-29-2007, 09:18 AM   #4
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The lights out thing for new introductions should work well, and a single day might be enough to confuse your existing residents.

About the fish...we always look at species, but not the individual personality of the fish. That seems silly, but some people have really nice, say, sixline wrasses, while others have bullies. Unfortunatly, you have to rely upon luck getting "nice" fish.
My tanks previous owner (uncle) had 4 big yellow tangs and a bigger sailfin tang living in it for several years. This is in a 4" 90g, with no sump and a poor quality skimmer. His tank florished. Ask anyone with an understanding of reef systems and they would say the fish would not get along, and the system would crash.
You have a 6foot tank, good space. Introduce both at once and take a chance. They might fight a bit as they work out their heirarchy, but hopefully they will figure it out.
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Old 09-29-2007, 01:03 PM   #5
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Good deal that's what I needed to hear. Pretty much said exactly what I figured you might.

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