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Old 06-27-2006, 07:43 PM   #1
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Ca or Kalk reactors


Which is better or is there a best reactor out there?
I have finally decided on a tank for my equipment. It is a new 150 gal 5x2x2. i have everything sized for this tank but I need a Ca or Kalk reactor. Is there any good reading on the pros and cons of each.
I have read that even with a Kalk reactor you still need a Ca reactor.
Is there any truth to this statement?

I have been thinking about one of these----

Korallin C1502 Calcium Reactor

or a

GEO Calcium reactor 618

Help is greatly appreciated

Effeciency is important but so is stability of the equipment.

Thanks
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:51 AM   #2
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most systems end up with both a kalk reactor and a Ca reactor. they do different things. a kalk reactor is good at maintaining a level of Ca and alk. Ca reactors are good at raising Ca levels up. a kalk reactor is also good to have with a Ca reactor because it keeps the pH of the tank up. Ca reactors have a tendancy to lower the pH in a system.

if you have a low to medium Ca load in the system. i have a feeling a kalk reactor is all you will need. i was able to keep my 125g system going with just a kalk reactor and some light dosing once a week. the main reason for the dosing was because of an 8" Squammie that i had.

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Old 06-28-2006, 07:42 PM   #3
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I will go with the kalk reactor. It just seems that the two words are used interchangably this is why I asked. Thanks. Aren't what some people call calcium reactors really kalk reactors?
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So I am looking into a PM Kalk reactor as well. How do I plumb it in for auto topoff?
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I will go with the kalk reactor. It just seems that the two words are used interchangably this is why I asked. Thanks. Aren't what some people call calcium reactors really kalk reactors?

calcium reactor & kalk reactor are different.....I have a calcium reactor it is used to keep the alk & the calcium consistant and uses a ph controller to control the ph of the tank....I had alot of swings up and down of my ph prior to the calcium reactor...since I installed my calcium reactor my ph has maintained a good 8.3.....I thought the kalk reactor was to maintain calcium & ph if the ph drops?....
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:31 AM   #6
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A CO2-based Ca reactor will not drive down pH if it is properly adjusted and monitored , especialy if there is a secondary column that the reactor effluent must go through before hitting the tank circulation. Given a large enough reactor column and proper adjustment, it can supply any amount of calcium and alkalinity needed for a closed system, even in the presence of large dense populations of hermatypic organisms. The problem with kalkwasser reactors (Neilssen reactors) is that their ability to deliver calcium and alkalinity is limited by the rate at which water will evaporate from the system. Adding Kalk at rates faster than the maximum rate of evaporation will cause salinity variations as the kalkwasser dilutes the salinity down when addition exceeds evaporative losses.

Low pH with Ca reactors is often a result or excessive use of CO2 to dissolve the aragonite reactor media by circulating the recirc fluid at pH < 6.7 +0.05 pH units, and this ultimately results in loss of alkalinity that would otherwise be used to build stony coral skeleton (and the excess CO2 will bubble out of the system, Le Chatlier's principle). If the CO2 delivery rate is properly adjusted, pH will remain in the tank at somewhere between 8.15 to 8.3 or so, depending on the numbers and population density for photoautotrophs in the tank and the number and density of heterotrophic creatures in the system. Every source of CO2, including the reactor, sandbed bacteria, nitrifying organisms(bacteria), fishes, high-CO2 room air, and nightime photosynthesizers (remember, they catabolize their CHO's at night = CO2 + H2O) all will have inputs on not only how much CO2 is produced, but on the ultimate level of buffer as any acids they produce will be potentials for alkalinity losses to maintain the tank's pH.

See some of the threads on adjusting CO2-based Ca reactors in the GRD (use Joe's name as the search name, I think there is a good thread on the setup and adjustments made to his current reactor's setup).

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