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Old 09-13-2010, 03:10 AM   #1
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Canister filter or Protein skimmer or both? Which one?


Hola TRT, I have a question. I was doing some research and thinking about replacing my canister filter with a wet/dry. As I researched I ran across a few people saying that if you have enough live rock then all you need is a protein skimmer. No need for any other filtration. Then some say a wet/dry over a canister and also vice/versa. Im understanding that fish only tanks require more filtration(what im reading anyways), but to only have a protein skimmer and live rock just doesnt sound correct to me. Im new to reefing so I dont know, but it just sounds strange. What do you think. Also, how many fish is max for a 55gal reef set-up. And one last question. I have 2 hydor 1050 evolution powerheads in my 55gal. Is that too much flow for my 55gal and if so should I go down to 2 750's? Thanks again in advance.

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Old 09-13-2010, 03:49 AM   #2
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I recommend a simple setup of sump and protein skimmer.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:50 AM   #3
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Welcome to TRT!If you have a Fish only you need some kind of filter(wet/dry,canister).But if you do a Fish Only with live rock or a reef.Your rock is your filter and only need a skimmer too.
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:32 AM   #4
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You can read more on the Berlin method here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Method.

I would recommend the skimmer if you have the live rock to pull it off.
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:40 AM   #5
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So, what I am reading is true then. No need for a wet/dry or canister so long as you have enough live rock(I have about 50lbs of it, give or take). My tank used to be FOWLR, until about a month ago when I decided to start reefing. I was then thinking about getting rid of my canister and getting a wet/dry until I researched it and came up with the question I asked you. I was also wondering if the 2 powerheads I have(Hydor evolution 1050)producing too much flow for my 55gal? They are blowing stuff but not like my corals are holding on for dear life. Mostly my sandbed is being rearranged. I did have it pointing in a direction and my zoa's started to run for cover, so I moved it. My frogspawn though is looking like he's sticking his head out the window of a moving car doing about 40mph :-). Thanks again.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:24 AM   #6
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Those are pretty powerful pumps. Try moving them around, but probably one would be enough. It sort of depends on what corals you have too. A lot of SPS like that sort of flow but if it is buffeting the corals it can damage them.
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it's all about plaecment, of the corals and the powerheads. i have an mp40w and an mp10wes in my 75 running each at 75% and have no flow issues in fact i may even increase the flow a little. try pointing one power head toward the surface of the water and the other toward the front glass or even toward the back glass.
you may have to hide some of the corals behind some of the rockwork to cut down on the flow. i have both of my mp's at the same end of the tank so i placed my 35+ head torch coral and frog spawn under the mp's so that they dont get any direct flow but i also have a neon grape frog spawn toward the other end that i hid behind some rock work.

and all you need is the skimmer and sump
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Old 09-14-2010, 03:26 AM   #8
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Wow that is good news. I've been working with moving them around and I think I might have it right. But of course when I get home from work tomorrow morning, I'll probably move something else again lol. Glad to hear I can move my canister out of my tank and add a sump. Thanks again for the info guys, much appreciated.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:18 AM   #9
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I went with the sump over canister
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I replaced my canister with an HOB refugium. I already had a skimmer.
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