WAY OT,,Coyote control

[Doug1]

Originally Posted by kwjones

.22-250 or a .223 will work the best for varmits.

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Agreed, IF it comes to termination, use the .223 rather than a .22 better chance of getting the job done cleanly, less chance of a wounding

Shirley, When I first moved back up to Oregon, my neighbors had a Great Pyrenees named Uriah(Heep) what a great dawg, big lovable sweetie not slobbery and obnoxious ;ike most St Bernards I had met

[reefworried124]

Great pyranese can sometimes be mistaken for bears! BIIIIG dog.

[Phishnoob]

I am so glad we are moving out of state in two years. I had to leave my fun guns up there in the interesting .223 and other calibers. You just can't run around here with the .357 Chief's Special in your glove box in California Also, now they banned .50 cals (Thanks Arnie you goober) which would be great for a coyote if you had an hour to set it up, check the windage and get 2000 yards away first.

[Loverotties]

If you lived near me ,I would bring my rotties over.That would finsh your problem.Either they killem and thow them around like a sqeeker toy or scare them away forever.And the ones saying .22 and .357,na a elephant gun would be less cleanup!

[Junkzoo]

Originally Posted by ShirleyM

Jeff...put a Great Pyrenees on your farm...they'll leave for good. The Pyr won't kill them, but his nightly rounds and low rumbling bark will keep them off the premises.

I used to have one in Lousiana...Quinn...185 lbs of good-hearted dog. When I moved back to Indiana, we couldn't keep Quinn, so I placed him with a 4-H sheep farmer/State Farm Ins. agent who lives in Romney, IN. He never lost another lamb again to a coyote after Quinn joined his herd.

Great Pyrs, as you probably know, are used as livestock watchdogs and patrol the perimeter of the property several times during the night, emitting their lion-roar bark every so often...and the sleep a lot during the day.

~ Shirley

Shirley, believe it of not, i thought about it,,,as a "patrol" dog,,,even a Caucasian Mountain dog(think that's the breed name) as the breeders put it:
"natural protection of a .45",,,
wished i'd known you at the time you moved back up,,,I'da adopted him,,,sounds like a good dog,,,,
only gotta play nice with doxies,,,,and not run from them LOL.
No problems lately, but have my eye out for trouble, when i get off working midnite inna few days, i'll start looking for problems,,heaven help them,,,if they act up,,,
I'm rural enuf,no one ever has called when i ,ummmmm, when a firearm discharged,,,
the neighbor lady did round up her PITA dogs(don't get me started) when i was doin "blank" pistol training w/my cousin out here,,,musta looked pretty strange ,when i pointed a starters pistol at /near my cousin's (soon to be K9 dog) and fired,,she rounded up all 6 of those pain in the behind dogs REAL quick,,,,still laugh about it,,,

[Junkzoo]

Originally Posted by kwjones

.22-250 or a .223 will work the best for varmits.

If you hit them enuf,and the right place,,,most anything will do,,
The M-16 might be a lil over the line, but if needed,,,,
they are safe , until they cross over to my property,,,then it's on!
I'm a total lover/protector of animals, but if they mess wit my babies,,,,,,
IT'S ON!

[Junkzoo]

Originally Posted by Loverotties

If you lived near me ,I would bring my rotties over.That would finsh your problem.Either they killem and thow them around like a sqeeker toy or scare them away forever.And the ones saying .22 and .357,na a elephant gun would be less cleanup!

Thanks, but i got two great German Shepherds,,,they'd get there faster,,
One's Police protection trained,and the other will follow that one's lead, no doubt,,if i point and give the German command to "take down".
not too much worries here tho,,only when i let the lil house dogs out,,4 doxies,,,afraid they might tear the coyotes up too much,,,don't laugh, my $$'s on them,,,well 1/2 of them,,,

[Phishnoob]

We already have our humane society volunteer looking for either a new Aussie Shepherd or a Blue Healer. I split up a few years back with my ex but the Aussie I swear pulled her through cancer later.

Shepherds are just amazing...and they seem to understand English somehow. I cannot understand how Border Collies are so smart while a regular Collie is dumber than our terrier that insists on pooing inside.

[Doug1]

Originally Posted by Phishnoob

We already have our humane society volunteer looking for either a new Aussie Shepherd or a Blue Healer. I split up a few years back with my ex but the Aussie I swear pulled her through cancer later.

Shepherds are just amazing...and they seem to understand English somehow. I cannot understand how Border Collies are so smart while a regular Collie is dumber than our terrier that insists on pooing inside.

Perry, there is only one Terrier, Airdale, the rest are outcasts

[Phishnoob]

You guys are going to think I am crazy but they keep llamas to protect the sheep up in Idaho on a lot of hobby farms. There is some weird relationship where sheep will only host on that kind of protector or something. Anyway, the llama is supposed to be vicous enough to keep out a wolf and the sheep will only put up with a llama. Coyotes won't even get close. I would get one for your yard and problem solved.

The real ranchers keep a crew of border collies, but that is not nearly as cool.

[Junkzoo]

Hmmm, that's a new one Perry,,,never heard that about llamas,,,,
Got some people near me that have some, might have to ask them,,,,,
plus i work with some guys that tease me about "fostering " some llamas for their kids 4H projects,,,might happen,,,,

[llpoolej]

We have coyotes around here. Not a huge population, but close into suburbia. I have seen them while riding and the barn was in a very populated area. Strangely, deer, turkeys and coyotes don't bother my horse at all. Though leaves crackling do. Go figure her pee brain.

As to the question that was brought up as to why everyone doesn't have big aggressive dogs vs smaller ones. Sometimes it is too much a liability to have large dogs. Especially with lots of kids going in and out. I have a 14 year old lab/pit cross and she is the most brilliant dog ever. She would lay her life down for this family. She has killed 3 possums in our yard. Those are mean suckers. Shakes them twice to break their neck and then leaves them alone.

Our next dog will be a whippet which is a great rabbit hunter, but would NOT be much protection. Certainly couldn't take on a coyote. Having kids who now have other kids come over, a large dog can be intimidating and a liability. When I was single, Rio was the perfect dog. I do believe she kept me from harm more than once. NO ONE would have been able to get to me except *through* her. God help 'em.

Now, I need docile and non aggressive. If that makes sense. Though this is far off topic.

Can you let out the shepards for a few nights? Or will they wander off? I bet they would run them off.