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06-24-2008, 04:32 PM
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Clowns Galore!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chuck Co, Mo
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On a brighter note: I am no longer water logged and gladly have no rashes from all the chemicals in the water. Hopefully there are no future issues.
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06-24-2008, 04:35 PM
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#107
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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Originally Posted by BeckyC
I'm back tracking a little.
I grew up in Illinois, just east of St. Louis. After the nasty flooding in the early 90s people should have learned a lot. I'm sitting here in the weatherless desert of El Paso, watching the news day after day in the midwest. I get a little confused. Some of those people complaining that their insurance salesman said they didn't need flood insurance...there is a difference between need and availability of that insurance. I'm sure they still could have purchased insurance for it. Sometimes have to be one step ahead of insurance companies.
I guess it is not always the most popular or humanitary response, though.
Once, when I was in college, I took an environmental disaster planning course to fulfil a geography minor. There was a discussion about people who choose to build their homes along cliffs and occasionally lose those homes. Prime real estate for some. I had the unpopular suggestion: Don't build your house on a cliff. Well, I guess it wasn't a course on common sense, more likely a course on how to make it work.
Now that I am in El Paso, not too many disasters. But we did have severe flooding a couple years back. I-10 became a lake, the interstate needed to have a hole drilled in it to get the water off. Marines were getting the cars off that had owners who just had to drive through water too deep. The intermittent streams sprang back into life, right into peoples' homes and businesses. Not one person took responsibilty for where they chose to live. Lots of new development out here. We are filling in those streams...water has to go somewhere and we lack storm drains.
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Pretty Crazy, building homes on hillsides and cliffs, esp in areas prone to quakes or monsoonal rains, or on vast tracts of land seperated from lots of water by levies, or in the path of seasonal major storms
Where I live in Southern Oregon I am far enough away from the river it's not an issue, its a pretty sheltered valley so major storms are rare as are seismic events. Biggest threat here is forest fire so I have to create and maintain a safe buffer zone around the house
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When considering courage in battle, one should remember that there are 2 sides to every conflict.
The heroism of the losing side rarely gets remembered
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06-24-2008, 04:39 PM
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#108
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Clowns Galore!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chuck Co, Mo
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Oddly enough one of the biggest fault lines in the US is only about 180 miles from my house here in the midwest. Last really big quake there was in 1812. It sent the Mississippi River flowing back up stream for a short time. They predict that if it lets loose like that again, the ground near my current house will liquify and most structures will fail. I will be very glad to get moved to the western side of the state.
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06-24-2008, 04:41 PM
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Clowns Galore!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Chuck Co, Mo
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Off to get a bite to eat. 
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06-24-2008, 04:42 PM
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Candy Pirate
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: I can see my breath
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YLChik
Have I mentioned that Penny is really cute!
Hi Kelli!
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my niece came over to visit her
I guess she cried the whole way home
"Mom, whay can't we get a little dog like Penn"
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Originally Posted by ScruffyRubicon
That puppy has some ears!
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have you ever seen an adult Papillon?
those ears still have a ways to grow
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LANCASTER, PA—Surmounting treacherous icy pavement and a windchill factor dipping as low as 19 degrees Fahrenheit,
local resident Louis Bergstrom survived a real-life battle with the elements Friday when he successfully completed a harrowing
four-and-a-half-minute journey across the desolate, frozen parking lot
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06-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyRubicon
Oddly enough one of the biggest fault lines in the US is only about 180 miles from my house here in the midwest. Last really big quake there was in 1812. It sent the Mississippi River flowing back up stream for a short time. They predict that if it lets loose like that again, the ground near my current house will liquify and most structures will fail. I will be very glad to get moved to the western side of the state.
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With weird weather and awakening seismic activity in US I ain't betting on anything
Glad you got dried out and no artificial jungle rot 
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When considering courage in battle, one should remember that there are 2 sides to every conflict.
The heroism of the losing side rarely gets remembered
but we were all husbands and fathers, sons and bros
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06-24-2008, 04:49 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyRubicon
Me too! The news is talking about how bad the things in the water are. One guy in particular almost lost a leg due to water borne disease.
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Back when the area (StL) flooded in the 90s, doofuses were out with their intertubes playing in the water and cooling off. Lots of hepatitus shots. I won't put a toe in any river! After I got married, I ended up living along the Potomac...couldn't pay me to put a body part in that system either!
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06-24-2008, 04:52 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScruffyRubicon
There are always those times when when situations arise where a no way to predict a disaster that occurs. Those are fine but to build someplace that is clearly a flood plain, shame on you! Too much of a chance and we all pay for it. Some through higher premiums to cover them, others through higher premiums and having to go out and protect them and/or their property. Too much risk to life and health.
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I am starting to get where I do not necessarily trust the Insurance Companies.
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06-24-2008, 04:57 PM
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Candy Pirate
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: I can see my breath
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeckyC
I am starting to get where I do not necessarily trust the Insurance Companies.
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don't get started yet
I get to deal with them tomorrow about my basement vrs the storm drains
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LANCASTER, PA—Surmounting treacherous icy pavement and a windchill factor dipping as low as 19 degrees Fahrenheit,
local resident Louis Bergstrom survived a real-life battle with the elements Friday when he successfully completed a harrowing
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06-24-2008, 04:58 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Texas
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Good luck! lol
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06-24-2008, 05:04 PM
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Mommy Mod
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: down the street and around the corner from Dimples
Posts: 4,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeckyC
Back when the area (StL) flooded in the 90s, doofuses were out with their intertubes playing in the water and cooling off. Lots of hepatitus shots. I won't put a toe in any river! After I got married, I ended up living along the Potomac...couldn't pay me to put a body part in that system either!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeckyC
Good luck! lol
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ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww the Potomac yeah NO WAY I am getting near that water! We lived in Waldorf MD for 5 years - eeeeek... I am shuttering just thinking about it!
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06-24-2008, 05:16 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West of Dimples
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Well,..
I never used to have a fear about jumping in random lakes for a swim
Whiskey
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Mr. Jive/Dr. Heckyll
Life is never more fun, then when your the Underdog
Competing against the Giants.
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06-24-2008, 05:36 PM
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Tokay Gecko Tamer !
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Jacksonville Fl
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I never had a fear of that till i got to Fl.
I think if i go back to Az i would still go to them few swimming holes.
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You can never make something Fool Proof because there will allways be a better Fool.
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06-24-2008, 05:41 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West of Dimples
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caball362
I never had a fear of that till i got to Fl.
I think if i go back to Az i would still go to them few swimming holes.
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I used to hang out at a creak in SD, and last time I was down there I went back,.. granted as an adult I didn't catch nearly as many crawdads or fall in quite as often.
Whiskey
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Mr. Jive/Dr. Heckyll
Life is never more fun, then when your the Underdog
Competing against the Giants.
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06-24-2008, 05:42 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Southern Oregon, Way West of Dimples ;)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wiskey
Well,..
I never used to have a fear about jumping in random lakes for a swim
Whiskey
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Thats the nice thing about a swimmin hole in the back yard 
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When considering courage in battle, one should remember that there are 2 sides to every conflict.
The heroism of the losing side rarely gets remembered
but we were all husbands and fathers, sons and bros
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