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Old 07-15-2006, 07:22 PM   #1
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Sad thread.......


So i took some clients down the river yesterday for the first time since becoming a father.........I didnt catch the local news for the last few days and being as it the water is regulated by a power company the water flow never varies enough to matter.

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Well, the water DID vary and the fishing wasnt all that great, although we did catch some fish.

Listen to the following though.......this is WHY the water level fluctuated. The place it happened is the worst rapid on the river, a class 5 and one I and many other seasoned captains take our DRIFTBOATS down.

The saddest thing about it is that she did everything right. It was her first trip but, she not onoly took lessons before going, she was with an experienced captain AND was wearing a class 5 lifejacket. Wanna talk about water pressure, I HEARD that the water pressure banking up against the famous rock that has her pinned(shes still there) was 92,000 lbs per sq inch. That seems like a lot to me but i have taken my driftboat down that stretch countless times and the famous rock in question IS named "OH S___" for a reason. I did a search but couldnt find any relevent information in concern to that, i would be interested if anybody knows what the water pressure of a roaring river can be, and if that 92,000 i heard is truly the case.

The guy who sunk his sled is the only guy on the river who can legally run his sled in that portion of the river...usually to perform boat salvaging efforts. After sinking it, he left as soon as possible to buy another and continue. For anybody who doesnt know it, if you are to sink a quality aluminum boat in a rapid such as this, it will come out looking like a beer can that a large drunk man took some agression out on. Seriously. Ive never sunk a boat(knock on wood), but just the same, i make about half or more of my clients walk this little stretch, based on health , swimming ability and strength.......just in case. O fcourse theyre not paying me for the whitewater experience, theyre paying me to catch fish, and for what its worth, whitewater like that is only fun in a driftboat if you are a little sick in the head becasue it puckers you up EVERY time, no matter how good you are.


Boat sinks trying to recover body of missing rafter in Deschutes





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BEND, Ore. -- The area of the Deschutes River where an Oregon City teen's body was found Sunday was so treacherous, a rescue boat sank during efforts to recover it, deputies said.
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The White Horse Rapids in the Deschutes River.

Divers using an underwater camera spotted the body of 17-year-old Danielle Hagler after four days of searching.
Chief Deputy Steve Conover said she was lodged against a large boulder in the river, held there by the pressure of the powerful rapids.

No one was injured when the rescue boat sank, and all got to shore safely, Conover said. But the sunken boat's bow was left sticking out of the water and created a navigational hazard.
"High water and turbulence in the rapids have created hazardous conditions which are hampering recovery efforts," Conover said. As a result, the sheriff's office was asking Portland General Electric to reduce the water flow so divers could safely reach Hagler's body.

Hagler was found close to the location where her raft overturned last Thursday. She was part of a church group on a recreational trip on the Deschutes River.

The raft flipped in the White Horse Rapids, a dangerous stretch of the Deschutes River. All the other occupants of the raft were able to swim to shore. One other girl, Hagler's best friend, Misty Blair, was slightly injured in the accident, and was transported to a hospital in The Dalles for treatment.

Friends of Hagler had held out hope that Hagler would be found alive somewhere along the BLM land bordering the river because she was wearing a life jacket at the time of the accident.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:53 PM   #2
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**** Bill, I am really sorry to hear that, as an old long toime rafter, having run Rainie Falls, the Illinois and Upper Klamatth Hells Corner Gorge I can appreciate what they are dealing with. River deaths are always a tragedy, even more so when everything was done " Right" ie Life jackets, no drugs or alcohol,
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:01 PM   #3
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**** Bill, I am really sorry to hear that, as an old long toime rafter, having run Rainie Falls, the Illinois and Upper Klamatth Hells Corner Gorge I can appreciate what they are dealing with. River deaths are always a tragedy, even more so when everything was done " Right" ie Life jackets, no drugs or alcohol,
She was on a church outing. In low water about 6 years ago i have actually had my driftboat high centered on the rock we will not call by name here that she is pinned against.
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That really is tragic, Bill
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:01 AM   #5
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Oh, how sad and tragic.
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:18 AM   #6
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I remember there being a math formula for water pressure based on CFS, river velocity etc, i suck at math so I dont know what it is but its a lot of force, that was one thing they always hammered into our head during fast water rescue class in SAR, Water always wins. My thing was raft insert and pickup klingers, the few times I had to man the dive boat and help recover were really tough, hopefully they can get her out soon
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I remember there being a math formula for water pressure based on CFS, river velocity etc, i suck at math so I dont know what it is but its a lot of force, that was one thing they always hammered into our head during fast water rescue class in SAR, Water always wins. My thing was raft insert and pickup klingers, the few times I had to man the dive boat and help recover were really tough, hopefully they can get her out soon
Not to be morbid but i cant imagine theres a whole lot left at this point. Shes been there a week and a half under that extreme water pressure.

I dont want to start an ethics and or religious beliefs conversation here, so please take what im about to say as just something else to think about....

The Deschutes is one of the premier wild trout and steelhead rivers in the country. Right now IS spawning time for the trout, dropping the water that much is surely going to have at a MINIMUM, SOME negative impact on the wild trout population. Theyre on the spawning beds in inches of water as it is at the moment.

Please dont anybody get me wrong here, for her family, i would lower the water every time if that were their wishes. But when i asked my wife she already knew what i would want done with my body in this circumstance. Nothing. Of course, there is another section of this river where my ashes are going to be spread anyway so it wouldnt make a whole lot of difference........

Very sad regardless and tough decisions to make.
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Oops, I missed the part that it happend a week and a half ago
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Oops, I missed the part that it happend a week and a half ago
I didnt know it either until Friday morning when i stopped to get my clients fishing licenses. They found her Sunday, and i believe the guy sank hi sled on Wednesday trying to get her out. They dropped the water 500 cfs on Thursday and then back up.....did that again on Friday, and today dropped it 1000. Its already as low as it gets before they dropped it. I havent heard if they were finally successful or not. Its in the middle of a 3 day stretch. Theres no car access anywhere near where shes at.
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This is such a sad thing, Bill, and hits close to you as a river runner. So many of our Summertime water accidents are preventable or through someone's carelessness but this situation was one where the river just outdid the rafters. Very tragic.

We've had deaths this past year in the Smokies from the water. Two have drowned at a popular waterfall, trapped by the hydraulics, and there have been others from different situations. It's always tragic, regardless of the cause.

I hope her family finds some peace.

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