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Old 08-03-2005, 10:47 PM   #1
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Firefox html question


How come everytime I use an apostrophe on my website, it looks fine on IE but looks like a ? on Firefox? Look on my homepage... Courtney's for example is Courtney?s

Arghhhh!!

btw, I edit with notepad, so it's not some fancy editing software thing...

Http://shirleymorgan.com

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Old 08-03-2005, 11:01 PM   #2
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I dont know Shirley, i use FF but i dont do HTML
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Old 08-04-2005, 01:50 AM   #3
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http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:21 AM   #4
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I just looked over your site using FF and it looked right to me the "Shirely's" was correct.


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Also the "Courtney's" looked correct also.

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Old 08-04-2005, 07:27 AM   #6
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Shirley will do anything to get here onto here site. just joking , I use FF and Your site looks right to Me. have a great day Shirley.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:36 AM   #7
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Shirley, it might be that your FF isn't using all the same fonts that your IE is using. Seeing how some on here with FF can see it just fine, it sounds like an internal font usage problem.


It looked fine to me here as well using FF.
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:39 PM   #8
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I was checking through the source code and it appears that a microsoft product was used to create it in the beginning, (msnavigation stuff suggests frontpage), microsoft trys to keep people using their software so that explains why it works great on IE opposed to FF. You can delete all the "ms*****" stuff and your website will stil function well, will also load faster too. Make sure to backup before you try, just in case

I agree on the font usage, the best way to make sure it shows up how you want on everyones' platform is to be very vague when defining font; i.e. serif/sans serif, no actual font names. To resemble arial you want to define face as "sans-serif."

Looks fine on mine too.
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Old 08-04-2005, 04:42 PM   #9
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Oh, and instead of notepad, check out http://www.context.cx/

It's my favorite programming highlighter.
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if you think there are issues with fonts and punctuation, wait until you try to drop IE totally...
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:07 PM   #11
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Good ol M$.

Their browser needs te be kept because it is so succeptable to browser hijack; in essence what happens when you update , activeX (the plugin used during file scanning) is only supported in IE and no other open source browser (for a good reason).
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Originally Posted by wharyat
I was checking through the source code and it appears that a microsoft product was used to create it in the beginning, (msnavigation stuff suggests frontpage), microsoft trys to keep people using their software so that explains why it works great on IE opposed to FF. You can delete all the "ms*****" stuff and your website will stil function well, will also load faster too. Make sure to backup before you try, just in case

I agree on the font usage, the best way to make sure it shows up how you want on everyones' platform is to be very vague when defining font; i.e. serif/sans serif, no actual font names. To resemble arial you want to define face as "sans-serif."

Looks fine on mine too.
THANK YOU! Will do that tomorrow afternoon!
I couldn't find this issue addressed anywhere on the ff help areas...

A very long time ago, I may have started it with frontpage, which I hate...
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I was checking through the source code and it appears that a microsoft product was used to create it in the beginning, (msnavigation stuff suggests frontpage), microsoft trys to keep people using their software so that explains why it works great on IE opposed to FF. You can delete all the "ms*****" stuff and your website will stil function well, will also load faster too. Make sure to backup before you try, just in case

I agree on the font usage, the best way to make sure it shows up how you want on everyones' platform is to be very vague when defining font; i.e. serif/sans serif, no actual font names. To resemble arial you want to define face as "sans-serif."

Looks fine on mine too.
Got it fixed!
I removed the old remnants of frontpage, but that didn't do the trick. I then noticed that the apostrophes were *working* on the "testimonials" ... but not the places like "Courtney's" ... so I looked at the text in Notepad... the apostrophes looked a little small and funny where they were ? marks on the FF browser, so I simply retyped them, and ftp'ed the file again, and now it works. So I don't know what happened with those apostrophes. Changing the font to sans serif didn't make a difference except it made it look like small times new roman font... odd, so I put it back as Arial.

Will check out context.cx very soon - Thanks!

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Good to hear.

Sans-serif should b e hyphonated or it will revert to times, or the default serif font. Most people have arial on their computer, so no big deal.

The best reason to get rid of all the microsoft aritfacts is to cut file size, and to keep the browser from trying to guess what the code means if it's on a non MS system.
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Old 08-04-2005, 10:53 PM   #15
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Also the "Courtney's" looked correct also.

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and you posted that before I fixed it... how odd..

well, now I know how to do the sans-serif instead of sans serif. thanks to all!
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