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10-02-2006, 02:00 PM
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Shark
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Beavers OMG!
Found this in another board I belong:
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The Dam
This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of
Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's
letter before you get to the response letter.
SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County
Dear Mr. DeVries:
It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental
Quality
that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above
referenced
parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner
and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:
Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams
across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.
A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.
A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been
issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity
is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural
Resource
and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994,
being
sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws,
annotated.
The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams
partially
failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at
downstream
locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous
and
cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and
desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to
a free-flow
condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the
stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than
January 31, 2006.
Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so
that
a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff.
Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized
activity on
the site may result in this case being referred for elevated
enforcement action..
We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this
matter.
Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any
questions.
Sincerely,
David L. Price
District Representative and Water Management Division.
Here is the actual response sent back by Mr. DeVries:
Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County
Dear Mr. Price,
Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond
to.
I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane,
Trout Run, Pennsylvania.
A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of
constructing
and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my
Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their
dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call
their skillful use of natures building materials "debris." I would
like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam
project any time and/or any place you choose.
I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match
their dam
skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam
persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.
As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they
must
first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam
activity.
My first dam question to you is:
(1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers, or
(2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to
said dam request?
If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers,
through the
Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those
other
applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will
see
if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and
Streams,
of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of
the
Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the
Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.
I have several concerns. My first concern is, aren't the beavers
entitled
to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially
destitute
and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will
have to
provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that
either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event,
causing
flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the
Department
is required to protect. In other words, we should leave the Spring
Pond
Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names.
If you want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please
contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they
obviously
did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to
read English.
In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build
their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is
green
and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to
live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources
and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect
the natural resources (Beavers) and the environmen t (Beavers' Dams).
So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be
referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait
until 1/31/2006? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice
then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to
contact/harass them then.
In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real
environmental quality, health, problem in the area. It is the bears!
Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you
should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers
alone.
If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step!
The bears are not careful where they dump!
Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable
to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this
response to your dam office.
THANK YOU.
RYAN DEVRIES & THE DAM BEAVERS
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10-02-2006, 02:53 PM
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I can't BELIEVE that I just read that whole dam thing!!
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10-02-2006, 03:10 PM
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Shark
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Cool ins't it?
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10-02-2006, 04:03 PM
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10-02-2006, 04:30 PM
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ROTFLMFAO!
That looks like one of so many letter i would love to send to the local govt someday.
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10-02-2006, 05:32 PM
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I love it!
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10-02-2006, 06:22 PM
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That's a Dam old joke
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10-02-2006, 06:24 PM
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Shark
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It is a Dam good one!
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10-02-2006, 11:37 PM
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I love that one, being from the Beaver State and longtime Beaver Lover I think its great 
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10-03-2006, 09:10 AM
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Shark
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Hey Doug, I just realized on you avatar you are growing roots on your feet, chair and table; that's cool.
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10-03-2006, 10:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Luey
Hey Doug, I just realized on you avatar you are growing roots on your feet, chair and table; that's cool.
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That was the whole point  That ones been up for a long time, I just got the new one, yah might say it was a "Court Order: 
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Last edited by Doug1; 10-03-2006 at 10:55 AM.
Reason: stil kant spel
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10-03-2006, 12:23 PM
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Rogue Water is Trouble!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upstate, NY
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Pretty funny stuff!
Those Dam Beavers!
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