Any Windows XP Pro Experts out here?

Junkzoo · 04-17-2003, 08:58 PM

Since i upgraded to XP Pro from Win98,got a few start up and shutdown issues i would like to change,,any one well versed in XP Pro?
shoot me a PM or email ,,
Thanks

grazzit · 04-19-2003, 12:18 AM

jeff jeff jeff.... I hate to even open myself up to this but, what's the matter? The more details the better. If you upgraded from an old OS to xp, I'm not going to touch it.

ShirleyM · 04-19-2003, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by grazzit
If you upgraded from an old OS to xp, I'm not going to touch it.

Good point, Grazzit! What did you used to have? I mean, besides Win 98SE, how old is the computer? Did you run the Win XP diagnostics CD on your computer BEFORE you upgraded to see if it's [XP] compatible with your old system's hardware and software and peripherals?

Or, are you just trying to modify how it runs, but otherwise it's running fine?

(I haven't even had coffee yet and here we go getting technical..I'm not even UP yet!

)

~ Shirley

Doug1 · 04-19-2003, 01:55 PM

Hey all I am at my daughters, trying to straighten out her hubbys puter, hes no help we put him on a plane to Tokyo yesterday

Win XP home sposedly a clean install, is a real pain to get it to open, on start up the XP loading screen sticks forever(20 min)
Puter is a HP upgraded to Athlon 1.2 gig PCU not sure what size HD at least 20 gig and 4** somethin memory
So far XP dont impress me much

ShirleyM · 04-19-2003, 02:06 PM

How old is her computer?

XP is awesome and never crashes, is built differently than "98 "85, etc, and more like Win 2000. It is NOT compatible, however, with older hardware/software, and we're talking pretty much a lot of anything older than the XP OS itself. Yes, you can install it over '98, but it is MUCH more advisable to format the HD and start over with XP.

~Shirley

Doug1 · 04-19-2003, 02:09 PM

Sposedly that was done but I didnt do it, and now hes flown out to join the crew of the carrier so wont be back till at least end of june

I have it running and will just leave it on so she can email him, its the only decent communication they have

grazzit · 04-19-2003, 02:26 PM

Jeff, I'm assuming you've had your hands chewed off by an annoyed Harlequin Tuskfish so I'll just toss an answer your way and hope you know what to do with it.

Goto the run prompt and type in msconfig =P From there you can control the majority of the programs that start up.

Doug, that's not enough info for me to figure out the problem, hanging at the loading screen for 20 minutes, never seen that =) I'd just go thru the standerd scenario, virus scan, try to determine if there is a questionable program installed. Honestly there are so many different things that can affect an OS it's quite often easier just to format and reinstall.

FYI, upgrading your OS to XP is just not a good idea. The stability of XP will be sacrificed if you don't do a clean install, sorry =)

ShirleyM · 04-19-2003, 02:34 PM

Hey Grazzit, what is khooker.exe in the Windows/System32 directory??? It's in my Startup.

Thx,
Shirley

Doug1 · 04-19-2003, 06:02 PM

Thanks for the insight guys and gals, I wasn't there for the reinstall/upgrade. I was told it was a clean install, but theres a lot of info I dont know and thats why I am not calling tech support.
ON my puter I can call the man that built it, but I dont for the life of me know why he (soninlaw) upgraded to XP xcept he like gadgets.
I wouldnt unless I got a brand new puter, and even then I need convincing of XP superiority

Junkzoo · 04-20-2003, 09:26 AM

sorry for the delay on a reply , folks,,my problem is:
i can't set XP up to start up, log on with just powering up the comp.also, on my dial up window, if i click "save password" the next time i log on, it''ll have a looooong password in there,,,no luck on the "connect automatically" box either

what i do now to shut down is:
"shut down comp", then "hibernate" , then it gives me a "now you can shut off your comp "message. i found a tip to create a shortcut to shut down/off using a desktop shortcut, but have not tried it yet,,,still want to do a click or two , and walk away,,
i had a virus crash my system during the win 98 days,,,since then it was not the way it used to be ,,,power up ,,then it logs on,,(i used to go do something in the basement while it powered up/logged on)
quess i need someone to tell me how to get "inside" and select/undo what is set up to do now,,,,

ShirleyM · 04-20-2003, 10:07 AM

I hate to say this, Jeff, but I would recommend a format and new install. (did you say you already did that?) Viruses of days gone by can still cause problems; Win XP on older systems doesn't always work...how old is your computer?

Shirley

Junkzoo · 04-20-2003, 06:08 PM

Shirley, did a format and install,,,virus(s) have been eradicated using a high end- super duper College use virus "killer"b4, and has been in the background running since.
my comp is a AMD 500 mg ,,mebbe three yrs old,,,ancient in PC terms

might just go back to '98

grazzit, no Tusk, i got a email from the guy(Razi) from the Indy
Coral Club, after i asked size and price of the Tusk he wanted to sell,,he kinda "doubted" my qualifications on keeping it

i wrote him back and told him of my experience/background,,,
and might have ticked him off,,

(or showed him up,,,dunno
i can get Tusks from a lot of wholesellers,,,kinda wanted to get one that has been around in a tank for awhile,,,
oh well,,,

ShirleyM · 04-20-2003, 06:43 PM

I have a win xp cd that diagnoses other os's to see if you can run xp on your old system. I'm still running '98 on Trevor's computer b/c the diagnostics found problems with the scanner (depend on that!) and some of the hardware, and many of Trevor's war games.

We boght that computer about 1 month before xp came out, right at the same time ME came out, but it's win '98.

A friend of mine had a computer with ME on it, slightly newer than Trevor's, and she had a computer technician put XP on it after formatting the HD, and it runs fine.

not much help...sorry.

Shirley

grazzit · 04-20-2003, 07:15 PM

"sorry for the delay on a reply , folks,,my problem is:
i can't set XP up to start up, log on with just powering up the comp"

Log onto what? onto your local network, automatically dial your isp or connect to the internet thru your cable/dsl modem? Or just log onto a default user account?

"also, on my dial up window, if i click "save password" the next time i log on, it''ll have a looooong password in there"

Are you certain the password is actually changed? try and connect without changing the password, it's probably just making the password look like it's made up of a different amount of characters.

"no luck on the "connect automatically" box either"

Do you mean it's not dialing automatically or the password/login info is incorrect?

"shut down comp", then "hibernate" , then it gives me a "now you can shut off your comp "message"

So if you tell the pc to shutdown, what does it do? nothing?

What are the stats on your pc? I'll place bets that some of your problem is due to a lack of ram and overall processing power because XP is a system hog, it likes to have about 256megs of ram to just use for itself. Also how much free space is on your hard drive? When your pc runs out of availible ram it starts using virtual memory (I'm sure ya know what this is but it's space on the HD just in case) and if there isn't enough HD space to satisfy the pc's needs, it will get even more sluggish. Also, how did you install XP? Did you format your drive and install using NTFS or fat32 (fat32 is default for win 9x operating systems, if you upgraded it's likely still using fat32), xp is capable of operating in a fat32 partition but it's not ideal and can result in unforseen results, similar to your own problems. It's been 2 years since I've messed with the dial up settings for xp and it sounds like that is the problem that concerns you the most, but we'll see if we can fix it for ya.

Hehe sorry I didn't have some magic key combination to unlock all the secrets in that box right away but we'll see what we can do. Don't be horribly surprised if the answer to your questions is to back up your data and nuke the drive followed up with a fresh install.

Doug, xp is far superior to all the win 9x os's, and for that matter so are win nt and win 2k. With that being said, it's not far superior in all situations, especially on older pc's that don't meet the system requirements. Trust me this is one situation where older is not better.

ShirleyM · 04-20-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by grazzit
... Also, how did you install XP? Did you format your drive and install using NTFS or fat32 (fat32 is default for win 9x operating systems, if you upgraded it's likely still using fat32), xp is capable of operating in a fat32 partition but it's not ideal and can result in unforseen results, similar to your own problems.

And this is precisely what I've been told. And ...this is beyond what I've done on my own.

~ Shirley